Re: this ng is on life support...


"A to the L" <atothel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:59:03 GMT, " bozak"
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"A to the L" <atothel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:04:03 GMT, " bozak"
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"Seb" <seb@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:slrnfj22qs.51n.seb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 2007-11-07, A to the L <atothel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Democracy is dead
American civil rights are dead

well those 2 are, for real...

no ***...

but hey, he has the right paint job so he probably doesnt notice as much...


classy...

do you deny that we could both go into the same establishment in this state
and i could be treated different because of my skin color???

this is a fact my man... when it doesn't happen to you, you are less likely
to notice it...

is that not true???

as a general blanket statement of course its true... but you know
enough about me (and hopefully something about my background) to know
that my circumstances are a little different...

a little...

for one, my family and I have been in the past subjected to abuse
based on religion (racial abuse's not-too-distant constant) throughout
my childhood... (please note - I'm never comparing the two, for as we
know skin color can't be hidden whereas religious identity usually
can)

so this was said as idle chit chat???

for two, you know what color my wife is, so to try to throw out
casually that I'm not aware of the difference between black and white
in florida, is just ridiculous - in certain (note the 'certain')
instances in this backwards ass place where I live, the interracial
couple gets even less (and definitely more suspicious looks from white
AND black parties) in certain establishments that a straight up black
couple...

dude, your wife is light skinned... the south has as much aparthied
going on as south africa... you being white and your girl being
high yellow is totally different than a black couple...

for three, you know the history of why I came to be here, and the
struggles I've had with certain sections of the US government...

yet you still wanted to come here so apparently you dont think its
that bad...

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anyway, here's my issue which caused me to write what I wrote
earlier... (and please be aware before reading on that (a) some of
what I write may well be contradictory, (b) not all of it is directed
at bozak and (c) all of it can be answered with a 'just don't read
those posts then' - I know all of the above...

apparently what i said caused you to write it, so why wouldnt it
all be directed towards me???

'This newsgroup is dead' posts are wack (so are 'on lifesupport'
posts.) As are 'Hiphop is dead' posts. The person who nailed this down
the best is actually quest... people move on, move away, come back...
but for the most part on rmhh the usual regulars are normally here (or
a lurk away), and while the volume of posts might slow down - the
spirit of the place is still here (on on last.fm) :)

they are so wack you decided to do a soliloquy because of one???
weird... this newsgroup is basically dead except for a few regulars
who post on the regular... it is a mere shadow of what it once was
when i first got here... like it or not, that is the truth...

Same with Hiphop. Its only as dead as you want it to be. There's
plenty going on right now to meet every taste - what quest likes, I
might hate - and vice versa. Meanwhile bozak likes some of what Natty
cosigns but not that which TJ cosigns even though those two are the
resident 'under-the-radar C&S' experts.

i have never said that hiphop is dead... *** i dont even know who
said hiphop in here is dead... there are a few people who are genre
stuck, or era stuck, or just fucking stuck period... and what the fuck
is this *** about me co-signing what natty cosigns but not what tj
co-signs ***??? just the other day i co-signed one of tj's posts...
im not a chopped and screwed guy... i think to like that *** you
have to be permanently weeded or on some kinda drug to
appreciate it... i guess i dont care about music that i have to create
an artificial mood to get into...

What has quietly got my goat for a long time though is the fact that
even when Hiphop is in a lull, there's still PLENTY to talk about.
Unfortunately the ability to talk about these issues has been hampered
by the amount of trolls and crossposting going on in here, and like it
or boz... a lot of that is due to your crossposting in other
newsgroups.

dude your so full of it you burp ***... i have rarely crossposted
anything for a long time and just started back doing it...

what you are really acting all prissy and bitch like about is because
i choose to respond to some of the crossposts that i dont create... and
that would be to *** with the bigots... sometimes i do but most times
i dont... seems like some weak *** to get your panties all in a bunch
over...

So while I'm down for debating and talking about the issues of Dog
throwing the n-word around, the latest on Bush's trials and
tribulations, Obama's dancing on Ellen, and any number of serious AND
trivial issues I'd like to talk about them with my rmhh brethern ONLY.

thats you... that being the case... maybe you need to start your own
moderated group so only you and the people only you want to be
bothered with can converse with each other... i on the other hand like
peeping new posters or old... its all about content with me... not that
they have been around to kiss ass or co-sign everything ive said...
in essence, for me that would defeat the purpose of usenet...

if you think back to when you first met me on this *** you thought i
was a *** like most... but eventually you figured out that i actually
had content to bring to the group and you chilled...

I don't really give a *** about the Lakers group, wrestling groups,
49ers groups or anything else... and what commonly happens now is that
the posts from people I want to read are getting swallowed up amidst
flame wars and rapid-posting sessions by people I don't want to read,
or have nothing in common with.

welcome to usenet... happens in every newsgroup... maybe you just
need to start that group of your own... this utopia you seem to seek
is not going to happen ever in usenet...

the reason it seems like there is so much more of it now is because
there are LESS posts in here... this newsgroup is basically DEAD...
it is no where close to what it once was...

IT IS ON LIFE SUPPORT... if just two or three regulars stop posting
here now whats left of it will be nothing more than spam or moronic
bigots posting about their love for white people, thinking that this
group is filled with people of color when thats the farthest thing
from the truth...

What's most depressing is that there are people on those groups who
sometimes post the same thing - 'stop crossposting' - and they get a
mouthful of abuse.

because its fucking idiotic... i am the only person here who crossposts
in an effort for people to come together from different parts of society...
for you to lump my crossposts in with bigots who are trying to piss
people off is fucking ridiculous... others have said many times before
that they actually like it... not to mention, some of the *** that is
crossposted actually does have a hiphop connotation to it...

You know what? I KNOW where the ignore poster button is. I KNOW where
the ignore thread button is too. I shouldn't need to use it on rmhh.

bull***... this is fucking usenet... the only reason you notice this
*** a lot more is because there are so few posts about rap...
which means guess what, this NG is on life support... its almost
dead...

Yes, its public forum and anyone can post here, and of course there's
going to spam and garbage from blow-ins (who quickly blow-out when
ignored)... but this is ongoing and long-going.

*yawn*

I'd love to talk about the death, life support, or life of all 5 of
the things I posted (there goes the contradictions I spoke about), but
I'd prefer to talk about those things with people I have a past
relationship with (nh), who I know their posting history, and who I
know at the root of any disagreements with shares some kind of common
ground in the fact that we're coming from a Hiphop background. As
opposed to someone who's only background-share with me is the fact
that we don't like Kobe.

then go ahead and create al's.buddies.only.rec.hiphop, so you will feel all
nice and safe in your warm cocoon...

*** me... that was an essay.

and it was wack as ***, let me tell you...

A to the L


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