Re: the N word

On 7 Jul 2006 07:30:56 -0700, "boumtje" <boumtje@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


purrffecttbliss wrote:
What if the boys were also calling all the girls "bitches" because
they hear it in songs? If it didn't seem to pose any real problems
among the students, would you still allow it?

nah, i wouldn't...i can't imagine that not posing problems with at
least some of the girls though..not really the same as this situation


If the girls didn't mind, would you still allow it?

Not your situation.....but I've faced this a lot. Girls (often best
friends) try to call each other bitch all the time here. Should I
simply allow it because they don't seem to mind?

I was watching Lil Kim's "Countdown to Lockdown" and noticed that one
of Kim's black A&R people repeatedly called her asian PR person
"Eggroll". What if the african kids picked that up and started
calling all the asian kids "eggroll"? Would you allow it?

again, no...but again, it's not really the same...if they're just
calling the asian kids "eggroll" then it's obviously a racial slur...in
the situation i'm talking about, kids of all races are using the word
with each other...the african kids have even been calling the asian and
european kids "***"


It really shouldn't matter who is saying it to whom.

It actually is the same thing in the sense that there are people who
are offended by the word ***. These kids don't seem to be.....but
they should at least be made aware that there are some in the world
who are and that it's not a good idea to go around arbitrarily
repeating everything that you hear.

What if the kids were calling each other "faggots" and "pussies"?
Would you allow it?

i hear that kind of stuff pretty regularly and always say something
without making a big deal out of it


You could easily do the same w/ the word "***". That is, if you
truly wanted to.

Rappers curse a lot in their records. Would you allow the kids to use
that type of language toward each other in front of you or toward you,
for that matter?

on the basketball court, i don't reprimand kids for their language...i
do in the classroom, obviously...outside the classroom, i only get
involved if they're swearing at someone else in an aggressive
manner...if someone misses an open jump shot and says "***!", i let it
go


In my old HS and at all of the PAL games that I've been to, if the ref
heard it, he'd call a technical foul. Heven't some NBA players been
fined for cussing on the court during a game?

A casual game among friends on a **PARK PLAYGROUND** is different
from a school playground. Kids need to learn when and where certain
things are tolerated and/or appropriate where they are not. Again,
street language really needs to be left in the street. It has no
place in a school setting. Once you start allowing it, you're opening
yourself up to a host of other disciplinary problems later on down the
line within that school setting.


Derogatory terms of any kind really have no place in a school setting.
It's not causing any problems right now, but like you seem to be
saying, the world is a lot bigger than that little playground and
those kids have to go out into it someday. Don't send them out
ignorant.

I wouldn't make a huge fuss of it. I'd just handle it in the same
manner that you handle cuss words. People say it a lot and they'll
hear it a lot.....but that doesn't mean that you have to repeat
everything you hear. Leave the "street language" in the streets.

well, i wanna say something...but i'd feel like a bit of a knob being a
white guy trying to tell the black kids that they can't call each other
"***" and even more of a knob trying to explain to the non-black kids
that they can't say it while their classmates can


**NO ONE** should be saying it in school.

to these kids (the africans and the non-africans) it's just a
word...there's no history behind it and it has no shock value...i'm not
even sure if they are aware that it's a racial thing...

That's why they should be told before they find it out on their own
the hard way.
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