Re: ~OT: and not a troll

On 29 Aug 2005 17:18:49 -0700, "nesta" <nestajones@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>mochaspresso wrote:
>>
>> Bottom line. I tip if they deserve it. That's the way of that world.
>>
>> If the pizza guy is rude, sullen or seems to have an attitude, I'm not
>> that inclined to tip. So what if maybe he's having a bad day? I'm a
>> customer. Hell, he's lucky that I don't call his manager and complain
>> about him. I don't tolerate poor service.
>
>i agree that you don't need to reward poor service. but i would say
>there is quite a difference between the driver being sullen, and being
>rude. how long do you interact with the driver? maybe 10 seconds? if
>he doesn't show up w/ a kool-aid grin, does it really affect your
>night, your enjoyment of the meal?

If that's the case, would it really kill him to suck it up and try to
be nice for those 10 seconds even if he's having a shitty day and
doesn't feel like it? The ones that do get a decent tip from me. The
ones that don't tend to get less. Again, that's the way of the world.
That's why I'm Mom and Pop all the way w/ food. The guys there know
me. They are nice to me. The take care of me and I reward them for
that.

The greedy sullen Papa John's driver's with their lack of manners can
suck a fat one for all I care. Half of them don't even say so much as
a "Good Evening" back to me when I open the door and greet them
politlely. I'm not expecting chit-chat....but god-dammit I just
said hi to your ass. You are the one looking to get money out of me.
The least you can do is say hi back.

> outwardly rude is something else,
>and a _waiter_ with an attitude, with whom you have far more
>interaction, is also a different story. with a delivery driver, 95% of
>the service is getting the food to you, before you ever see them.
>
>i take this *** to heart because i did deliver food for 2 years, and i
>busted my ass. it paid less than minimum wage, and i did rely on tips.
> i was pretty pissed if someone didn't tip me (not that i would yell at
>them for it or anything). if you don't wanna tip the delivery person,
>go to the fuckin restaurant and pick up the food yourself.

Then you'd be out of a job altogether, wouldn't you?

>>
>> Regardless of race, sometimes people think they automatically deserve
>> a tip just because it's the type of job where tips are customary. So
>> they do a shoddy job just because. They forget that people tip more
>> for good service.
>
>doing a shoddy job cause one doesn't care or cause one expects they'll
>be tipped anyway is bull***. however, you should remember that there
>is a reason why tipping is customary in some cases. it's because the
>worker needs the fucking tips to make a living. YOU as the customer
>are responsible for paying the bulk of that server's wages, and to
>completely withhold a tip completely because the person made an honest
>mistake or didn't flash their pearly whites on command is pretty
>fucking heartless. unless you think they can survive on $2.30/hour.
>in long island, i don't think so.
>
>and if none of that convinces you, keep in mind that current gas prices
>are also taking a nice chunk out of drivers' earnings these days (if
>you live in an area where they deliver by car).
>

If you know you can't survive on it and you know you rely on the tips,
it only makes sense to me to hustle for them like everyone else does.

>anyway, for whatever it's worth, i delivered in an area where my
>customers were split pretty evenly black and white, maybe a bit more
>black, with a few asians and not many latinos. i never noticed any
>difference in who tipped what.




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