Re: Why did the GD audience always cheer when Jerry sang....

On Nov 27, 12:02 pm, Sherry in Vermont <sherr...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2009-11-27 11:29:55 -0500, marcman <marcmanstud...@xxxxxxxxx> said:





On Nov 27, 11:01 am, Sherry in Vermont <sherr...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2009-11-25 15:38:04 -0500, Edwin Hurwitz <ed...@xxxxxxxxx> said:

In article <5omqg5pcfpk0vnul7i5n56lokfj01hq...@xxxxxxx>,
 Brad Greer <jjh110...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:29:20 -0800 (PST), marcman
<marcmanstud...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 23, 12:20 pm, Sherry in Vermont <sherr...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrot
e:
On 2009-11-18 23:44:39 -0500, JimK <jkezw...@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:19:18 -0800, Jperdue4 <Jperd...@xxxxxxx> wro
te:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:51:08 -0800 (PST), "3jane." <q3j...@xxxxxxxx
om>
wrote:

...these lines from "Candyman"; "If I had me a shotgun, I'd blow
 you
straight to H**L"! ???

Part of it was the fact that it was at the point in the song whe
re the
band wanted you to cheer. It was generally the musical and lyric
al
apex of the song. Phil would build to a big peak and Garcia woul
d roar
out the lyrics. It didn't necessarily matter what the line would
 have
been there, it would have gotten a roar.

Now, I'm sure that this line probably got a bigger roar than "if
 I had
a tomato, I would make a BLT" would have gotten, but still...

That sure would have gotten a roar out of me.

For me, the BLT is THE sandwich. Ive even had them with fake bacon
 and
they rock.
jonp

Bacon may just be the perfect food....if only it didn't kill you to
eat too much of it.

JimK

I've always wondered why people eat fake bacon?

One reason is that bacon, in general, is not helathy to be eatin'.

I mean, REAL bacon is
awesome, so why eat stuff that pretends to be bacon? Same with other
meat items sold for vegetarians. If you are vegetarian, you don't ea
t
meat for some reason or other - so why eat meat substitutes at all?

Because no pigs were killed during the production of the fake bacon..
And fake bacon made from not meat products is healthier.

If
you like the taste of the meat, why do you prefer to eat fake versio
ns
that can't compare? I just don't get it.

Dead animals and cholesterol.

That said, I eat meat, and real bacon.

I think Sherry's point is more along the lines of fake bacon (and
other fake meat products like tofu turkeys) are like non-alcoholic
beer.  You're pretending to indulge in something you say you don't
indulge in, either animal-based foods or adult beverages.  If you're
 a
vegetarian than own up to it and don't eat fake meat products.

Why? If you are just going to eat in the most utilitarian fashion
possible, why eat anything at all that tastes good? Do you want to
punish the taste buds of those of us who happened to get a genetic
inheritance that makes bacon dangerous for some perceived moral issue?
I
love bacon, but it's really stupid for me to eat it. Therefore, I enjoy
eating fake bacon. I have no moral issues with killing animals for food
,
it's just not wise for me to eat some of them. I will eat leaner animal
foods and I certainly intend to enjoy some turkey tomorrow.

Edwin

Okay - health reason, you like the taste but can't eat the real stuff.
That makes sense.

To me what doesn't make sense is folks who go on and ON about being
vegetarian, eating meat is bad because you have to kill things... and
yet, they eat products designed to "be" meat.

The non-meat products that are designed to be like meat are not made
from dead animals.  The logic is that no animals were killed in
producing this (fake) hamburger, With all due respect - and I mean
that -  what doesn't make sense to you?

Why someone who is against eating animals would eat food designed to
LOOK and TASTE like the animal.


The resulting food from the kill doesn't look like the animal in the
case of say a hamburger. And I'd have to argue that those that don;t
eat meat because they disagree with killing animals for food, don;t
necessarily have a problem with the taste of the food but rather the
idea that an animal died in order to provide the food. I lived with a
vegetarian for 3 years, she would eat "nothing with a face" and I'm
forming my opinions on a combination of my own beliefs and what I've
heard from her.



If you are against eating
dead things, great, don't eat them.

If you eat a tofu burger instead of a beef hamburger, you are not
eating dead things.

Well - actually - the tofu (soy) is not living anymore, either.


Sorry, yes of course, veggies, etc. are "alive" I meant to say dead
animals not dead things.


Just makes no sense to me that
folks would eat food make to look/taste like meat when they are veg for
humanitarian reasons.

When one eats food that doesn't come from an animal, that is made to
loook/taste like meat from an animal, no animals were killed in making
the tofu burger. Very humanitarian, no dead animals.

But if the issue is "dead animals" WHY make it to LOOK and TASTE like
dead animals???


Because dead animals taste good? Aparantly, there are non-animal food
products that taste like animal food products, or at least some peoole
think they taste close enough, I'm not one of them however. So if a
person wants to enjoy the tatste of dead animals, without actually
having to have any animals killed to provide the food, as long as the
animal food alternative tastes close enough to the real thing to that
particular person, then I could easily see why they would eat, say a
tofu burger.




It just sticks sideways for me - doesn't make
sense to me. I was veg at one time... but it was not for me. I LIKE
meat and how it tastes.

This last part has nothing to do with whether or not "fake" meat
products not made from animals somehow conteracts the humanitarian
slant on not eating animals. It simply does not. If no animals are
killed, then the humanitarian argument is supported.  What doesn't
make sense about that?

If the argument is not about eating dead animals, I still don't get why
you would deliberately eat things made to TASTE and LOOK like the dead
animals you are against eating. <shrug>


Because dead animals taste good, yet I don't want to kill animals for
food. (I said "I" but we're not talking about me specifically here,
I'm a carnivore.)

Then again, most vegetarians I know wear leather, and that doesn't seem
to be a problem, either.


The vegetarian I lived with would *never* wear leather. :)

Me? My leather jacket is my favorite article of clothing.

Sherry in Vermont

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