Re: Trey and Page with the Allman Brothers Thursday March 12, Beacon Theater

On Mar 20, 2:28 pm, onetaste2...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Mar 20, 5:35 am, marcman <marcmanstud...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Being cantakerous is a personality trait.  Acting rudely and
obnoxiously, or let's just say "unfriendly" especially to strangers,
is - ***IMO*** - a personality flaw (here).

Wait a minute, d00d. You say you've been reading this joint off and on
since 97 and you are just now tripping so hard over this little
cluster*** of a thread? What's with that? Perhaps a little
perspective is in order.


And here I am again . . . some comments, I'll try and keep them short.

Yes, I said I've been reading RMGD off and on since '97. That is a
truth. I did not say, and have not been studying it. That said, I
don't know why it came across that I was "tripping so hard over this
little cluster*** of a thread," honestly, I never actually felt that
way. Maybe I'm just not as good a writer as I think I am.


Maybe my viewpoint is skewed because I am a "new" person, but acting
the way you did towards me and towards new people in general that show
up here, will certainly maintain the "old boys club" dynamic that you
so obviously cherish, but the downside of that is that you greatly
reduce the possibility of new people contributing (whether facts, or
opinions or entertainment).

You know, this a wonderfully worded, well-thought out version of just
about the only thing more annoying to a) most of us, b) many of us, c)
some of us, d) just me, than the guppy-puppy trip please love my band
trip, and that's the "why are u so mean??!!!" n00b special, so I'm
only giving you half-credit.


LOL, I'll take what I can get, thanks for the half credit.


New people should probably be given more slack - a lot more slack than you
gave me - otherwise new people will never stay here.

And why should they be given more slack than you got? You got lots of
slack when you first arrived.

I meant from Scot. I don't want to renew hostilities between he and I,
but he was the only one of the group I took exception to.

Hell, I went to bat for ya twice, and
you were doing fine all by your lonesome as it was. Then, out of
nowhere, you turned into a whiny little bitch obsessing about how mean
poor Scot was in not accepting your olive branch and then lying about
having seen it, along with ramming home what a *** he was.


I have regrets about allowing myself to have been taken down that
road. Just bein' honest. In retrospect I wish I would have remained a
little more grounded - as I usually am.



marcman 1.0 was a welcome addition, but marcman 2.0, was less than
such.


Point taken.

To your credit, you have managed to stay for the duration of this
cluster*** of a thread, but to your discredit, you are a primary
reason as to why it turned into a cluster***.

But enough about you,

Are you sure??


and on to the "new people" in general. It's an
old song and dance, and it has, due to accretion, gotten to be a bit
tiresome for a) most of us, b) many of us, c) some of us, d) just me.
Therefore, it generally has a short shelf-life. See logan about the
general dynamic.

Mebbe it's hazing, mebbe it's just the surly nature of this band of
misfits, but when someone comes here and immediately starts to dictate
the terms of their stay, well, it doesn't go over all that well. We're
kind of like a corner taproom of regulars, going on about our
business, and in pops some noob. Now, that in itself is not a problem.
But if the noob starts making noises about staying on topic or how we
ain't exactly living up to their stereotypical version of "real"
Deadheads, well, they tend to get mocked, dicked with, and, if they
persist, they get yet another version of this long-winded splooge I
love to trot out to irritate/educate them with.


I understand that you stated pre-rant that it wasn't about me. However
I feel compelled to state that I generally don't mind being mocked or
dicked with. I can laugh at myself as well as somebody else. Just
leave my mother out of it, so to speak.

Most people won't stick around and deal with the
pile of *** that I dealt with in ths thread - and that's on me, for
better or worse - the result being that growth is inhibited from
happening.

Not all growth is good

That's an EXCELLENT point. And please don't (you or anybody else)
tell me that you (or anybody else) didn't need me to point that out to
you. Just stating my opinion, hoping to show you regs what I'm made
up of. ;)

and there ain't no free lunch. You wanna play,
you gotta pay . . . attention to how things roll. Just like you do
everywhere else. For you to claim to have been reading here off and on
since 97 and to not have noticed how things roll here, well, that's
either a bigger lie than Scot's little fib, (I fully agree with you
that he prolly saw it, but ignored it--big fucking deal) or you just
aren't very swift.

Fred, I get it. Really, I do. Not sure why, but in my mind, I felt
Scot crossed a line. That's I guess, when marcman 2.0 came out. Did he
actually cross a line? Now I dunno for sure, but I have to imagine
that no matter what the "group dynamic" there's gotta be a line
somewhere. Maybe he didn't cross it - if it exists at all. It
wouldn't be the first time I was wrong about something.


Since you seem, in general, to have  far more than
the average wattage, I gotta wonder. (. . . . Ok, I'm done wondering,
cause I just don't care what the answer is.)

Thing is, a) most of us, b) many of us, c) some of us, d) just me,
don't expect the large majority of noobs to stay because, well, they
don't. Is it because we are so mean as to not roll out the red carpet?
Could be. If so, *** 'em. Is it because they don't take the time to
suss the place out and thereby make fools of themselves? If so, play
with them for a time and then *** 'em. If they turn out to have the
right screws loose to be part of our dysfunctional family, they are
welcome to stay.


I'm loving the dialogue. Loving it. Makes me use my brain in a
different way than my work makes me use it.


I assure you Scot, and there's nothing subjective about it, if you go
back and read this thread again, I kept it on the high road long after
you took it "to the street."

This is true, as I mentioned when I went to bat for you. But then you
went and blew a gasket and started fussing and obsessing like a little
girl, which I mentioned when I took a bat to you, yet gently.


For me to admit that I blew a gasket is a difficult task. I like to
think that I'm more in control of myself than that. I'll be thinking
about it a little bit though. Thanks for pointing out your POV to me
on that.


I'm just not gonna take that kind of
*** from you (or anybody), and frankly, I'm very surprised that *you*
don't respect that quality in me, it's one that we SHARE. In fact,
it's that part of your personality, that makes me want to like you.

Look, I love the bravado, Mr. Ain't Takin' *** from Anyone, but it
would carry a bit more weight if you would back it up with something
less whiny than this panties in a twist cause you didn't take my olive-
branch please treat me and all noobs better or we'll leave pony you
are currently riding.

Go ahead and poke fun at my soliloquy if you must, all I ask is that
at least privately, give it some thought.

Scot's busy with that life he leads outside of usenet, so let me poke
fun at it for him. And all I ask of you is that you STFU on this
matter and go get involved in another thread.

Would you believe I'm trying to???


Please. You got way too
much game to waste it on this bull***. It would be a shame to see you
burnout and bail because you couldn't get over the first bump in the
road.


Really, that's very nice of you to say, thanks.


Fred

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