Re: NDC-Al Gore invented being a hypocrite


"DG" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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volkfolk wrote:

DG wrote

volkfolk wrote:

bradish wrote

Op ed from USA today

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060810/cm_usatoday/goreisntquiteasgreenashesledtheworldtobelieve;_ylt=AgJMajJbQTMEdTU3dxfZD6Cs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ
<YAWN> Gee, imagine that, a politician who is a hypocrite. That NEVER
happens#####
So what. The bottomline is that whether Al practices what he preaches is
completely irrelevant. He happens to be right about global warming.
Whatever
the cause is, the Earth IS getting warmer, and fossil fuels do release
carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.


Global warming is this generation's Africanized killer bees and Y2K
all wrapped into one.

While the jury is out on what is causing it, the Earth is getting warmer.
It
may very well be a natural process, but it IS occuring. Both NOAA and
NASA
have studied the subject extensively


So what? It's an ebb and flow.

I understand that but the cores from the polar ice reveal a much more
dramatic swing in the past sixty years.

<SNIP>
I have spent over 35 years sailing, hiking, camping, rock climbing and
skiing. IMO environmental conservation is probably the most important
thing
we can do, not to save the planet, but to save ourselves. The planet
will
be
here for billions of years, no matter what. Mankind has a much more
finite
time here.


Right... Sure...

You don't think it makes sense to have clean air, clean water, and not
have
an environment that is poisoned by chemicals? Do *** in the middle of
your
living room? Pee in the kitchen sink? :Leave rotten food fouling your
floors
and counter tops? It amounts to the same thing IMO.


The "Right... Sure..." was in response to "Mankind has a much more
finite time here."

Are you so arrogant that you believe that we can't drive ourselves into
extinction?
Perhaps you should work for the Bush Administration, your thinking parallels
their thinking pretty closely.

It only makes sense to
keep the planet healthy IMO. Plus it isn't even all that difficult a task
to
accomplish. Plus if we actively pursued developing cleaner sources of
energy
it would probably create new jobs and new technologies. Look at the
technological advancements that came out of the Manhattan Project and the
Space Race. I don't doubt that we would see similar leaps in our
technology
if we actively persued Fuel Cell, Solar, Wind and other alternative energy
sources


I'm with you here... Instead of pissing away a $1 billiion per day in
Iraq, we should spend it on building a better America.

No doubt, but I am not going to hold my breath.

Additionally, if we actually did find non fossil fuel sources of energy,
we
could tell OPEC to go *** themselves, and it would dry up much of the
money
that Al Quadda has to launch terrorist attacks. It is a win/win
situation
for the United States, but the so called "conservatives" who dominate
the
media are either too stupid or too dishonest to recognize any of the
facts
that are out there. <SNIP>


Now you are getting somewhere. It's better to pick the pocket of the
middle eastern wackos than worry about something that is supposed to
happen years from now.

It isn't happening years from now, it is happening now. NASA has been
documenting the increase in average temps, the shrinking polar ice caps
and
the growing hole in the ozone over the Polar Ice Caps for over 20 years,
and
core samples from Antartic Ice show that the level of "Greenhouse" Gases
started increasing dramaticly imediately following WW II


What is the cause?

Are you serious? The cause is obvious. The number of private automobiles has
increased one hundred fold in the past sixty years. Additionally we have
destroyed a large portion of the world's rainforests, which absorbed large
amounts of the Carbon Dioxide that we create. The ebb and flow is out of
balance because we have altered the balance.

This past spring we had two warmest wettest months we have EVER had in New
England


One season doesn't convince me.

Fair enough, but when you look at the trend line of severe weather, the
correlation between warm water and more powerful Hurricanes and Nor'Easters,
and last years Hurricane Season, it is worth examining what effect we are
having on the Earths climate. Global warming isn't tinfoil hat stuff, as
much as you might wish it to be true. The documentation is out there.


You can ignore that data, but the evidence seems pretty compelling to me.
No
matter what the cause, the Earth is getting warmer. If decreasing the
amount
of Carbon Dioxide in the Atmosphere will slow the process down, why not do
it?


Humans produce CO2. There are more humans on the planet than ever
before. Draw your own conclusion...

Yeah, and trees produce oxygen and we are destroying 100's of acres of
rainforest everyday. I think that is far more critical than the amount of
CO2 we exhale

Conservation is a logical choice to improve the quality of life here on
Earth

Scot


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