Re: Bush planning nuke attack on Iran?

Richard Morris wrote:
"JB" <JayBeeee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ZKOdnZPQ7_V-naLZRVn-tg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Richard Morris wrote:

We had progressed some, up until about 2000.

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Tell me how you are better off since the year 2000 ...

Well, where should I start? Since 2000:

1) We have welcomed two beautiful boys with a third child due in May.
2) My wife and I purchased our first home for our family in 2001.
3) Our earnings have increased in each consecutive year 2000-05.
4) We're nearly out of debt (excluding mortgage).
5) I've turned down numerous good job offers.
6) We paid more in taxes in 2005 than we earned in 1999.
7) Neither of us had health insurance in 1999. Since 2000, we have.
9) My wife just got a promotion. Even so, we're hoping she can stop working for a few years and stay at home with the kids. If all continues to go well, that may happen this year.
9) We've saved more for retirement and for our children's educations than we ever had before.
10) We give more to charities and to our church (financially speaking, since two working parents of small children don't have much spare time to volunteer)
11) We've helped other people by hiring them to do work that we don't have time to do and have even given them raises.


So, let me ask you this: how much credit do *we* (my wife and I) deserve for all of the aforementioned points and what the *** does any of it have to do with who has lived in the White House since 2000??

Feel safer?

Yes, I do. In fact, I feel safer than I would if Gore or Kerry had won either of the most recent Presidential elections.

Why is bin Laden still at large?

Because we haven't found him yet [duh]. We have, however, found, captured, or killed many of his associates.

Better off economically?

Yes, I am. In fact, I just quit a great job today to start an even better one in two weeks. I will be making more money than I ever have in my career with much better long term opportunities. And, again, the government had nothing to do with it.

If you are, then enjoy it while it lasts ... the massive deficits will catch up with us sooner or later. The rest of us barely manage to hold our own while company after company tries to dump their pension plans

I don't have a pension plan. I never have. I consider saving for my retirement to be my responsibility. If my employer makes contributions, that's an added benefit.

And, if you're really "barely managing to hold your own", then perhaps you might consider not wasting time posting to a newsgroup dedicated to a defunct band and get another job (assuming you have one). Life is full of choices. That's the beauty of a free society, isn't it?

and the current administration continues to threaten social security.

I really like your use of the word "threaten". You say it as though the program's existence were somehow guaranteed to today's young workers. I've got news for you....it's not. It's basically a Ponzi scheme. Social Security is even less viable for today's workers *without* the changes that Bush (and, prior to 2004, many Democrats) was proposing.

Got health insurance?

Yes, I do. Very good insurance, indeed. In fact, I earn it.

Better hang on to it if you can ...

I plan to. If I continue to work hard, that should not be a problem.

a serious illness could wipe you out otherwise, and the new bankruptcy laws pushed in by the current administration won't let you off the hook.

I know people who abused the old bankruptcy regulations to avoid paying creditors. Do you think that is okay?

Like watching the price of gasoline double in six years?

Nope, you've got me there. And, yet, I still *choose* to drive a SUV.

Has the price of *anything* gone down?

Sure. Digital cameras, televisions, computer equipment, telephone bills, clothes, and stocks (just to name a few).

Can you afford to buy a house?

Yes, we own a house. If all goes well, we may buy another.

Feeling well represented in Washington?

Not really. My Senators are Chuck Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The majority of the people are not feeling that way.

Isn't it wonderful that everyone will be able to go into an voting booth in a ~6 months? We will see, in November, if you're correct.

Small wonder when we start seeing our elected representatives on trial for corruption ... for betraying the people that they represent for money.

Eating one bad apple will never cause me to stop enjoying apples.

Penalties should be death for treason, imho.

Well, at least you're showing your true stripes.

I can go on ...

I'm sure you could. You've got lots to complain about and it seems everything someone else's fault.

the war on drugs that is costing us billions of dollars and locking up people for what should not be a crime ...

On this point, we can agree. However, has GW Bush really made the war on drugs a centerpiece of his administration? Certainly not.

the dangerous attitude that might makes right .... the attempt to sell off national forest land, and to open our national parks up to commercial activity ... the ineffectiveness ... the lying ...

All that was taking place long before 2000.

Was it a lie when Bill Clinton said the following in 1998?:

"And they [Iraq] will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen.

There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq. His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region and the security of all the rest of us.

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This includes nearly 40,000 chemical weapons, more than 100,000 gallons of chemical weapons agents, 48 operational missiles, 30 warheads specifically fitted for chemical and biological weapons, and a massive biological weapons facility at Al Hakam equipped to produce anthrax and other deadly agents.

Over the past few months, as they have come closer and closer to rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity, Saddam has undertaken yet another gambit to thwart their ambitions."

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/

Why anyone in their right mind supports this *** is way, way beyond me.

It's certainly not for the simple-minded.

But you just dance, shake your bones and yawn.

Dancing can make you tired. So can responding to your posts....so, I'm off to bed.
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