Re: Short filk: Planets



In article <garym-1ADEC6.07111626082006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Gary McGath <garym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <44ef65b0$1@kcnews01>,
Joseph Kesselman <keshlam-nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Arthur T. wrote:
Not as relevant, but suggestive that these definitions won't
hold up:

Or suggestive that most will accept whatever decision gets made. Which
is my own take, not that this is anywhere near my fields of expertise --
I don't care whether there's a new category and/or where the dividing
line is drawn, just so long as someone establishes a clear definition.

But is the one that's been adopted a clear one?

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
Prosecute Bush, not newspapers.

The definition is clear, if badly written.

A Planet is an object thate has enough mass to achieve "hydrostatic
equilibrium" which is just a fancy way of stating gravity makes it
spherical.

It may not be a satelite of another planet.

It must have sufficient mass to have "cleared it's orbit". THese are the
weasle words. Earlier drafts had phrases such as "dominant in it's orbit"
contains the majority of it's mass etc.

Basically Pluto is an interesting Kuiper belt object. Since these objects
formed by a diferent process than the 8 planets it is reasonable to
classify them differently.


Mark E. Horning, Physicist
Phoenix, Arizona

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