Re: "I'm Liberal to a degree"

On Oct 5, 10:33 pm, Janice <jan...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 5, 8:19 pm, gemjack <geminijackso...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 "If the America people ever allow private banks to control the
issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by
deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them
will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children
will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers
conquered."-T.Jefferson

Tom is my favorite founder.  Reading your quote, I remembered Tom's
quote comparing banks and standing armies:

The system of banking [is] a blot left in all our Constitutions,
which, if not covered, will end in their destruction... I sincerely
believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing
armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by
posterity... is but swindling futurity on a large scale.

Another of Tom's quotes:

We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make
our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude.
If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in
our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our
amusements, for our calling and our creeds...[we will] have no time to
think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to
obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the
necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human
governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a
precedent for[ another]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be
mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team
is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness
and oppression.

Very interesting and important. There are two major through lines in
our history. One is slavery and the black and white world. The other
is banking. Banking as an issue has gone on without surcease.

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Have any of you been watching Ken Burns's documentary on the National
Parks (on PBS)?  

No. I hope to soon.


I've DVR'd it and so have been watching in convenient
chunks and haven't made it all the way through yet.

The cinematography is beautiful of course, but the soundtrack gets
old, and the narrator's voice (Peter Coyote?) gets a bit
melodramatic... still, the story of the history of the parks is
fascinating.  What I find most interesting is the repeated emphasis on
these (our) National Parks being the real foundation and substance of
our sense of patriotism, and how they exist only because of our
resistance to greed and profit-at-all-cost.

The documentary is chockablock with historical information -- that Abe
Lincoln was the first President to initiate the beginning concept of a
National Park...  that John D. Rockefeller Jr. personally purchased
millions of dollars of land that he donated to the country for
inclusion in the National Parks... that Ansel Adams was hired by the
Federal government to photograph every National Park (and spent 8
years doing so) in order to have a pictorial resource of the parks in
Washington DC... that during WWII the National Parks were used as
convalescent and R&R centers for returning soldiers...

I believe this quote is from Denali (Mt. McKinley) photographer
Bradford Washburn:

What is it that inspires love of the flag?
That tunes the ear of America to sing My Country Tis of Thee...
Is it the hideous ore dumps of the sordid mining camp?
Is it the grim powerhouse in which is harnessed Niagara?
Is it the blackened waste that follows the devastation of much of our
forest wealth?
Is it the smoking factory of the grimy mill town?
The malodorous wharves along navigable rivers?
Is it even the lofty metropolitan skyscraper that shuts out the sun
and casts its dismal shadow over all below?
No.
Our devotion to the flag is inspired by love of country.
Patriotism is the religion of the soil.
National Parks are our richest patrimony.

                                  ~`~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody
click the shutter.
--Ansel Adams

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Relevant Pages

  • Oh say can you see?
    ... The Bush administration is on the verge of implementing new air quality ... Colorado's Mesa Verde and North Dakota's Theodore Roosevelt national parks. ... approach" in predicting how much pollution new power plants would produce. ...
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  • Re: "Im Liberal to a degree"
    ... Reading your quote, I remembered Tom's ... The system of banking a blot left in all our Constitutions, ... Parks? ... that during WWII the National Parks were used as ...
    (rec.music.dylan)
  • Re: Kaimanawa Wall once again...
    ... Is that supposed to be like Americans or something? ... an observation that your own characterization of NZ parks could apply equally ... permits inside national parks is a difficult thing - in NZ or in the US (see, ... clearcutting inside national forests - then you get all the permits you want. ...
    (sci.archaeology)
  • Re: Kaimanawa Wall once again...
    ... Is that supposed to be like Americans or something? ... an observation that your own characterization of NZ parks could apply equally ... permits inside national parks is a difficult thing - in NZ or in the US (see, ... clearcutting inside national forests - then you get all the permits you want. ...
    (sci.anthropology)
  • Re: WDW has lost me as a customer
    ... Jim Hill Media has a few articles on this topic, ... Just a quote: ... The annual passholders do not add to that ... > The Annual Pass is a ticket to get in the parks. ...
    (rec.arts.disney.parks)
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