Re: LastThoughts(US_elections)

On Oct 18, 4:06 pm, HoChi_dudley <dud...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 18, 1:17 am, Tif <pasterna...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> On Oct 16, 7:04 pm, HoChi_dudley <dud...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 I pay less heed to the Dow than to the Tao.).

 Wise Man Dudley, you are.

Dear Tif:

Waalll, i'll call yuh Tif whether i might or no; i see i've got ya
fooled.

Time was i consulted the I Ching regular, for reasons from romance of
the Heart to heartfelt spiritual matters. Cast yarrow stalks manually,
too.

Time was aWhile ago.

So now the innernet allows us "online" to divine stufflike, and i've
consulted the Book of Change on be1/2 of us all, the query as such,
based on the liner notes to BIABH(see at end):

rmd_WHAAT?

yields:

Hexagram 64 Transition (Before Completion) changing to 26 The Taming
Power of the Great

That is
________
___   ___
________

___   ___
________
___   ___

{Flame over water}.

Changing to:

________
___   ___
___   ___

________
________
________

{Mountain over heaven}.

}

Please consult yr own translation.

Herewith the Source for the Query:}

needless t' say, i split fast go back t' the
nice quiet country. am standing there writing
WHAAT? on my favorite wall when who should
pass by in a jet plane but my recording
engineer "i'm here t' pick up you and your
lastest works of art. do you need any help
with anything?''
{

Hope (if any) This Helps.

Sincerely,
Robert dudley Dickinson
___
From Wilhelm:
64. Wei Chi / Before Completion

above LI THE CLINGING, FLAME
below K'AN THE ABYSMAL, WATER

This hexagram indicates a time when the transition from disorder to
order is not yet completed. The change is indeed prepared for, since
all the lines in the upper trigram are in relation to those in the
lower. However, they are not yet in their places. While the preceding
hexagram offers an analogy to autumn, which forms the transition from
summer to winter, this hexagram presents a parallel to spring, which
leads out of winter's stagnation into the fruitful time of summer.
With this hopeful outlook the Book of Changes come to its close.

THE JUDGMENT

BEFORE COMPLETION. Success.
But if the little fox, after nearly completing the crossing,
Gets his tail in the water,

There is nothing that would further.

The conditions are difficult. The task is great and full of
responsibility. It is nothing less than that of leading the world out
of confusion back to order. But it is a task that promises success,
because there is a goal that can unite the forces now tending in
different directions. At first, however, one must move warily, like an
old fox walking over ice. The caution of a fox walking over ice is
proverbial in China. His ears are constantly alert to the cracking of
the ice, as he carefully and circumspectly searches out the safest
spots. A young fox who as yet has not acquired this caution goes ahead
boldly, and it may happen that he falls in and gets his tail wet when
he is almost across the water. Then of course his effort has been all
in vain. Accordingly, in times "before completion," deliberation and
caution are the prerequisites of success.

THE IMAGE

Fire over water:

The image of the condition before transition.

Thus the superior man is careful
In the differentiation of things,

So that each finds its place.

When fire, which by nature flames upward, is above, and water, which
flows downward, is below, their effects take opposite directions and
remain unrelated. If we wish to achieve an effect, we must first
investigate the nature of the forces in question and ascertain their
proper place. If we can bring these forces to bear in the right place,
they will have the desired effect and completion will be achieved. But
in order to handle external forces properly, we must above all arrive
at the correct standpoint ourselves, for only from this vantage can we
work correctly.

THE LINES

Six at the beginning means:

He gets his tail in the water.
Humiliating.

In times of disorder there is a temptation to advance oneself as
rapidly as possible in order to accomplish something tangible. But
this enthusiasm leads only to failure and humiliation if the time for
achievement has not yet arrived. In such time it is wise to spare
ourselves the opprobrium of failure by holding back.

Six in the third place means:

Before completion, attack brings misfortune.
It furthers one to cross the great water.

The time of transition has arrived, but one lacks the strength to
complete the transition. If one should attempt to force it, disaster
would result, because collapse would then be unavoidable. What is to
be done? A new situation must be created; one must engage the energies
of able helpers and in this fellowship take the decisive step-cross
the great water. Then completion will become possible.

Nine in the fourth place means:

Perseverance brings good fortune.
Remorse disappears.

Shock, thus to discipline the Devil's Country.
For three years, great realms are rewarded.

Now it is the time of struggle. The transition must be completed. We
must make ourselves strong in resolution; this brings good fortune.
All misgivings that might arise in such grave times of struggle must
be silenced. It is a question of a fierce battle to break and to
discipline the Devil's Country, the forces of decadence. But the
struggle also has its reward. Now is the time to lay the foundations
of power and mastery for the future.

 26. Ta Ch'u / The Taming Power of the Great

above KêN KEEPING STILL, MOUNTAIN
below CH'IEN THE CREATIVE, HEAVEN

The Creative is tamed by Kên, Keeping Still. This produces great
power, a situation in contrast to that of the ninth hexagram, Hsiao
Ch'u, THE TAMING POWER OF THE SMALL, in which the Creative is tamed by
the Gentle alone. There one weak line must tame five strong lines, but
here four strong lines are restrained by two weak lines; in addition
to a minister, there is a prince, and the restraining power therefore
is afar stronger. The hexagram has a threefold meaning, expressing
different aspects of the concept "Holding firm." Heaven within the
mountain gives the idea of holding firm in the sense of holding
together; the trigram Kên which holds the trigram ch'ien still, gives
the idea of holding firm in the sense of holding back; the third idea
is that of holding firm in the sense of caring for and nourishing.
This last is suggested by the fact that a strong line at the top,
which is the ruler of the hexagram, is honored and tended as a sage.
The third of these meanings also attaches specifically to this strong
line at the top, which represents the sage.

THE JUDGMENT

THE TAMING POWER OF THE GREAT.
Perseverance furthers.

Not eating at home brings good fortune.
It furthers one to cross the great water.

To hold firmly to great creative powers and store them up, as set
forth in this hexagram, there is need of a strong, clear-headed man
who is honored by the ruler. The trigram Ch'ein points to strong
creative power; Kên indicates firmness and truth. Both point to light
and clarity and to the daily renewal of character. Only through such
daily self-renewal can a man continue at the height of his powers.
Force of habit helps to keep order in quiet times; but in periods when
there is a great storing up of energy, everything depends on the power
of the personality. However, since the worthy are honored, as in the
case of the strong personality entrusted with leadership by the ruler,
it is an advantage not to eat at home but rather to earn one's bread
by entering upon public office. Such a man is in harmony with heaven;
therefore even great and difficult undertakings, such as crossing the
great water, succeed.

THE IMAGE

Heaven within the mountain:

The image of THE TAMING POWER OF THE GREAT.

Thus the superior man acquaints himself with many sayings of antiquity
And many deeds of the past,
In order to strengthen his character thereby.

Heaven within the mountain points to hidden treasures. In the words
and deeds of the past there lies hidden a treasure that men may use to
strengthen and elevate their own characters. The way to study the past
is not to confine oneself to mere knowledge of history but, through
application of this knowledge, to give actuality to the past.

Got no idear what any of this means 'cept "Perseverance furthurs"....
keep on keepin' on.

Got no idea myself but the part :

" Not eating at home brings good fortune. " ain't bad.
I'll be pleased to do just that, soon.

Maybe I'll do a Tarot reading tonight and ask if more needs to keep
on keepin' on or if it is time to rest. Resting is so good, so fine.


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