Vietnam & Dylan in I'm Not There



I was going to end my analysis of I'm Not There's early themes with a discussion of how the movie makes the Vietnam war a key ingredient in Dylan's evolution. The scene of the Buddhist monk on fire is portrayed a few times, and Nixon's speech about ending the war "with honor" is seen as the catalyst that ends his marriage. But I'm discouraged about the response to the homosexual theme in the movie, so what's the point.

Another thing that discourages me is a book review in a Canadian newspaper of the latest book about Nixon. This review is written by Conrad Black, the famous Canadian newspaper baron, now serving a six hear sentence in an American prison for defrauding his shareholders. Conrad Black previously wrote a pro-Nixon biography and so it makes sense for him to attack this anti-Nixon book. Does it make sense to allow incarcerated prisoners to write newspaper articles?

I've always been sympathetic towards Conrad Black because he's a smart and funny guy, and I don't like to think of him stuck inside a jail. However, he said something so absurd in this article that I have to rethink things. Conrad Black said that America did not lose the Vietnam War.

If Nixon won the Vietnam war, then maybe the death of those three million people could be considered not to be in vain. Is it thus necessary for some people to be in denial about the Vietnam war?

What's the point of discussing the issue of Vietnam and Dylan in I'm Not There when people can deny such obvious facts as America losing the Vietnam War? Maybe there was no Todd Haynes movie about Dylan. Maybe there is no Bob Dylan? Coo Coo Kachoo, Coo Coo Kachoo.
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