Re: Bob, Daniel & John

On Oct 28, 1:42 pm, Martin <martingayf...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This is one of Bob's great 'raps' - there are many of them, and they
were collected by Clinton Heylin in The Telegraph. To me, they're
just another facet of his bizarre transformation into a bible
thumper. I like the 'born again' albums a lot, but certainly don't
take the overtly religious lyrics to heart. I like the 'raps' because
they're mostly pretty bonkers, and often politically dodgy. But can
somebody explain to me - as someone who doesn't know the bible - how
this crazy theory about Russia fits into it?


Dylan's Rap, Toronto, April 20, 1980

http://www.interferenza.com/bcs/articles/sermon.htm

" Well, I definitely recall reading Nietzsche and those people like
that. Anyways, in the Bible it tells a specific thing in the Book of
Revelations that just apply to these times, and it says that certain
wars that soon -- I can't say exactly when but soon anyway -- so that
at that time it mentions a country to the furthermost north, and has
as its symbol the bear. And it's also spelled R-O-S-H in the Bible.

"This was written quite a few years ago. So it can't but be applied to
one country that I know. But do you know another it can be applied to?
Maybe you do. I don't know.

"Then there's another country called ... can't remember what the name
of it is, but it's in the eastern partn of the world, and it's got an
army of two hundred million foot soldiers. Now there's only one
country that that can actually be.
"So anyway, I was telling this story to these people. I shouldn't have
been telling it to them. I just got carried away. I mentioned it to
them and then I watched. And Russia was going to come down and attack
in the Middle East. It says this in the Bible.

"And I had been reading all kinds of books my whole life: magazines,
books, whatever I could lay my hands on anyway, and I never found any
truth in any of it, if you wanna know the truth. But I said, This
country is gonna come down and attack. And all these people -- there
must've been 50,000...maybe it wasn't 50,000, 5000 maybe...I don't
know maybe three -- 3000 -- they all booed. Everybody just booed; and
it was the whole auditorium of people, I said, Russia's gonna come
down and attack the Middle East. And it was Oooh! They couldn't hear
that. They didn't believe it.
And a month later Russia moved her troops into, I think,
Afghanistan... ."


Random Evangelical Christian website:

http://joelrosenberg.blogspot.com/2005/05/war-of-gog-and-magog-understanding.html

UNDERSTANDING "THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG"

WHO

In Ezekiel 38:1-6, the Hebrew prophet gives a list of obscure names
that will form a united coalition.

* Gog is described as being "of the land of Magog" and as the "prince
of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal." Most Bible scholars believe Gog is not a
name but a title, like Pharoah or Czar. He is a dictator who will
hatch an "evil plan" (38:10).

* Magog = Leading Bible scholars say this is Russia and republics of
the former Soviet Union. The first century Roman historian Josephus
said the "Magogites" were the peoples whom the Greeks called
"Scythians." Scythians were a fierce, blood-thirsty civilization that
settled north of the Baltic Sea in what is now Russia and the European
republics of the former USSR.

* Rosh = Russia

* Meshech = Some Bible scholars say this is Moscow, others believe it
refers to Turkey

* Tubal = Some Bible scholars say this refers to the city/region of
Tobolsk in Russia along the Tobol River; others say it refers to a
section of modern-day Turkey. (Interestingly, in 1964, massive
reserves of oil and gas were discovered in the Tobolsk region of
Siberia and people now refer to the region as the "energy center of
Russia.")

* Persia = This was the official name of Iran until 1935

* Cush = Sudan and Ethiopia

* Put = Libya, and possibly Algeria and Tunisia

* Gomer = Turkey, but also possibly Germany and Austria

* Beth-togarmah = Armenia and the Turkic-speaking peoples of Central
Asia

* "Many peoples with you" who will attack along "the mountains of
Israel" = Other countries will be involved in the coalition as well,
notably countries that border the mountains of Israel. This includes
Lebanon, Syria and possibly Jordan.

* NOTE: Conspicuously absent from the list is Egypt and Iraq
(typically referred to in Scripture as Babylon or Mesapotamia). This
is noteworthy since Ezekiel was writing the prophecy in the City of
Babylon, in the heart of Iraq. We would have to expect, then, that
neither Egypt nor Iraq will participate. This is particularly
interesting since Egypt signed a peace treaty with Israel in 1979 and
Iraq is now so engrossed in its own internal struggles that it would
be unlikely to join a coalition to destroy Israel in the next few
years.

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