Re: Flatters their graves - why "flatters"?


Jumbo wrote:
Dylanetics wrote:

Additionally, I wonder whether "soldiers to save" started out as
"soldiers to praise." That's a more exact rhyme with "graves" (final
"z" sound),

Not that it matters a great deal, D., but I don't think I agree with
you that "praise" is a more "exact rhyme" with "graves" than "save".

Cf.:

I once had two little moggies
But lost one when it grew foggy

as opposed to

I once had two little moggies
Who made friends with two little collies.

Neither rhyme is "exact". I don't think it's possible to say one is
"more exact" than the other.

We might do it by counting number of phonemes shared (in the right
order) with the target ("graves").

"Graves" has
1. G
2. R
3. A (long "a" sound)
4. V
5. Z

"Save" shares two out of five with "graves", namely, A and V.

But our hero "praise" shares three out of five, namely, R, A and Z.

So "praise" wins by a nose. It's the *more nearly* exact rhyme.

A five-out-five match would be the same word ("graves"), which we don't
usually count. (Although Bob has used them from time to time.)

How about a four-out-five match with a different initial phoneme? We
could call that an "exact" rhyme.

If the verb "draves" (in the infinitive, as in "his soldiers to
draves") had been available on that morning in July 1965, I'm confident
Bob would have used it.

.

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