Re: Who owns rmd?
- From: FoxWolfie Galen <foxwolfie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:20:18 -0400
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:43:49 GMT, "bs" <bs@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just a question on my part cause I don't know! Who started this newsgroup?
I'm not sure anyone knows who started r.m.d. From what I can find, there
seems to be no official charted for this group. I do known that it was
created sometime prior to April of 1989.
No one owns a newsgroup. Once sent, the creation control message is
propagated throughout the net, and, at that time, would have been honored
by almost all NNTP newsservers. Newsgroup messages reside on most any
server that supports them, so there is no one location or owner for
everything. Once a group is started, it is pretty much let loose into the
wild. If a few dozen newsservers decide to drop a group entirely, it still
lives on. This is party why some servers show over 100,000 newsgroups. A
large number of them were created and abandoned, or simply never used.
left after the Dr. started his website and offered streaming shows on it.
For that matter, who owns absmdd?
The same applies to that group. It's creation was more recent than this
group, but the lack of details leading up to the creation suggest that it
may have been created as a rogue group. In any case, it was a group that
had a waiting audience, so it was not a wasted creation.
It's been my understanding that you post questions/requests to this
newsgroup and post shows to the other site.
That is correct. Most groups are for text based discussion only. Generally,
only groups with "binaries" in their title are for files, such as mp3s,
images, movies, etc. It is safe to assume that no binary files should be
posted to anything but a binary group. Generally, if something isn't text,
it is binary, and if has to be sent as an attachment, it belongs in a
binary group.
The reason I'm asking this is I'd like to know the owners opinion of the
recent issues surrounding the streaming issue vs buying direct from the
Dr.'s website. Just wondering.
Our collective opinions are pretty much the closest you will get to an
"owners" opinion. Since no one officially owns a newsgroup, we as users are
sort of the owners. How we participate determines the direction of the
group.
As someone who has been reading this group for some time, I guess I can add
my own opinion. I think the ideal situation for the Doctor would be if
everyone who liked the show simply bought it from his site. Under the
current setup, that is far from ideal for the listeners. I personally won't
buy the show as it is currently offered. I paid for two of them, and didn't
end up hearing a complete show either time. There is no provision for
trying again until the entire show is successfully streamed. Sure, if I
pushed the issue, a refund could have been gotten, but that hassle should
not have to be dealt with in the first place.
Even if I could have heard the entire shows when paid for, the quality was
simply not worth paying for. I love the Doctor, and listening to the shows,
but don't enjoy shortwave quality streams that aren't reliable. Since the
newsgroups exist, I simply download the shows for listening later. They end
up on my drive, and there is no chance of an interrupted stream. The
quality of most of the shows via the newsgroups are much higher too. If the
newsgroups didn't exist, and there was no source for free shows, would I
then pay for the official streams then? Probably not. As good as the Doctor
is, if I must chose between hearing him at very low quality, or listening
to an alternative show at a much higher quality, I'll chose the alternative
show. 90 percent of the songs are the same on the various "Demento-clone"
shows. I still like the Doctor's radio personality the most, and I'd miss
that, but I'd rather do without than to get a headache from straining to
understand lyrics in a low-quality stream.
I listened to Demento back in 1975 and continued until it disappeared from
my local stations in the early 1980s. It was my all-time favorite show. I
went Dementoless, with the exception of his various records, CDs and fan
club, up until the late 1990s, when I discovered some sources on the net.
He still continues to be my favorite radio show. Actually, I can't honestly
think of any other current radio shows that I even like. Modern music is
generally lacking in all that is good.
I don't care for how things are going for him, and that he's basically
forcing stations who desire to stream, to abandon his show. Even so, I
still have a lot of respect for him. He introduced me to funny music when I
was a teenager, and is responsible for totally dementing my mind. :)
He may be the world's greatest deejay, but sadly, is not equally good at
adapting to the changing industry and the internet. I hope he is able to
find a solution to paying his bills that also works to increase his
exposure and listener base. I am willing to pay for quality shows that I
can download to keep. I can't pay very much, but I suspect there are
thousands of other people who might do the same, but they have to be
getting something usable for their money. I also think the vast majority of
people who like demented music are not even aware of the Doctor Demento
show. Some may have heard of it, but most people simply don't live where it
can be heard, and they probably never thought to look for something they
aren't aware of on the net. The only way most people become aware of
demented music is the hear it first. The doesn't happen on today's radio
stations. I am assuming that most of the Doctor's fans are people who first
heard his show on the radio at some point in the past. They then had
something to search for when they got access to the internet. The majority
simply never discover it.
Thankfully, the newsgroups exist, and there are higher quality shows there.
I tend to prefer shows from the mid 1970s up to the mid 1990s the most. The
Doctor is always great, but a some of the music from the past 10 to 15
years isn't quite as funny to me as the older stuff. There are many
exceptions of course. Part of the problem is that many songs are simply
over-played. I may be wrong, but the older shows seemed to have a little
more variety from week to week. I like the D-Pod shows because they bring
back that variety. I'd have to do some sort of statistical analysis on the
playlists to know for sure - and that's a project I may never find time to
do! I think he's played something like 51,000 songs at this point, but most
of that number is probably repeat plays. Some day, I should make a list of
how many individually unique songs he's played.
I'm hoping for a Demented miracle that allows the Doctor to keep going
strong even ten years from now.
--
FoxWolfie
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