Re: What we listen for


"Michael Mossey" <michaelmossey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> It occurs to me that all of these are external processes not involving
> human feelings or relationships. No emotions are mentioned here.

Well, emotions are so subjective, so if I try to describe mine (which words
may not do justice to), they could be totally out of kilter. Bow noise is
bow noise :-)
The other thing is, these seemingly non-emotional things do strike me
emotionally (again, hard to describe). So I get as much of a "gut feeling"
from the way a piece is performed as iI do from the way it was redorded.

>
> Hearing it as erotic would mean it evokes a more personal human
> experience.

Than what? Hearing it is as a factory? Are we talking personal, or intimate?
Hearing it as erotic is no problem for me, I just worry about those who are
told you're supposed to hear it as erotic, and they don't, and then they
think something's wrong with them, or they don't understand the music, etc.
I think that has led many a would-be music listener astray.


>
> These kinds of thoughts interest me. This is what I was talking about
> in the beginning.

It certainly is interesting - obvious there's whole fields of study devoted
to this kind of thing.

>
>>
>> But for me, not all of it is impressionistic. Some of it I just
>> appreciate
>> on a "it's just there" level. It evokes nothing in me other than the
>> sounds.
>
> Does it evoke pleasure, or a feeling of being interested or stimulated?

Yes, definitely. For instance, I get pleasure in understanding the amount of
skill it would take Bach to simultaneously present the subject and
countersubject in stretto with some inverted/retrograded, etc. That's
something that your average person might simple say is "busy" or evokes "a
hectic pace", but to me it gives me a "damn, that's amazing" - so a state of
awe, which is a state I've found myself to enjoy. maybe other people feel
overly humbled in that state, and they don't like it, I feel humbled, but in
a good way. On the flip side though, I can certainly be interested in the
simple sound of a chord progression - the sound itself, without it being
complex like the Bach.

Steve


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