Re: What we listen for


"Michael Mossey" <michaelmossey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1138470241.998804.277090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[snip]
>
> I don't know why you think my sentence implies that the evocation of
> music is absolute. You used "music" and "evoke" 3 times as
> subject/object pairs, no different than what I typed. I might disagree
> somewhat that "what music resonates with" is entirely a choice.

Sorry, based on prior experience I made an erroneous assumption that you may
have been of the mindset that it's the music that evokes, not the listener.
Becuase that's a common offereing around here, I usually try to add a
disclaimer if I talk about something like this (like, This music evokes this
(not that it has to for everyone), etc.). - But then again my sentences are
full or parenthetical asides too!!! Thanks for clarifying.

[snip]
>
> KUSC (University of Souther California public radio) Jim Svjeda
> describes Bolero as "erotic".. you know, the rhythmic movement building
> to a sudden noisy shift of tonal center. I think the performance can
> bring out such qualities, or impede them. (I imagine you will think
> this statement somehow implies that we all agree on the qulaities of
> the performance.)


No, now you're jumping to conclusions. But turnabout is fair play. Now we're
even - 1 erroneous assumption for each :-)

I don't find it erotic.
I do know it has been used that way (in "10"). I'm sure others have conjured
up the image. But there are plenty of things that build and explode! I think
the "erotic" association with Bolero has become so commonplace that it's
taken as gospel. So I don't have a problem with differing interpretations,
but I'm also not crazy about any one interpretation becoming THE
interpretation (especially based on a movie, or some conductor's whim). I
bet if they players (and conductor) found out that Ravel's original image
was that of the factory, then they'd play it totally differently, and, many
might argue, more accurately.

But you're definitely right, the ability of people to bring out or impede
such qualities can make a drastic difference on the musical outcome - in
that way they can kind of "coerce" a listener.

Steve


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