Re: Two Fugues


"John" <mongrel@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Steve Latham" <llatham@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> [snip]
>
>> > Matt, I have no clue what you are talking about. I am just an amateur
>> > music
>> > enthusiast and not the author of those fugues.
>>
>> So why did you post them?
>
> What kind of question is that? Is there some rule against posting other
> people's work here?

No, but people usually say, "this is other people's work", or the assumption
is that it's the author of the posts own work (an assumption based on status
quo).

>
>> Most of the time, people who post music files in
>> this group are posting their own compositions, either for comment,
>> criticism, or even shameless self-promotion. Most of us probably assumed
> you
>> were the author - I certainly did.
>
> And this is important, exactly, how?

Because it makes a difference in the way people respond. If you don't want a
response, don't post. Otherwise if something's posted, it's nice to know the
reasons - are you just sharing? Do you want advice? do you have a question?
These were posted in the same way all kinds of spam is. As far as I know, it
was an advetisment for Virtual Composer (because we do see ads for all sorts
of things), and by not mentioning what they're for, people are likely to
ignore the post as spam, which may defeat the purpose of posting in the
first place.

>I made no allegations in the original
> post that the fugues were mine.

You also didn't say they weren't. They say "based on a theme" by so and so,
which means they are not by Bach or Scarlatti, but someone else - by your
posting them other posters here would assume they are yours without any
information to the contrary (which is absent). Even the file names are at
best cryptic.



> Even if they were mine, does it make any
> difference to you?

Yes. People sometimes post things around here with an intentional lack of
information for less than meritorious reasons. I'm just informing you of
that potentiality - I'm sorry you took it as an attack. If those fugues were
yours, it does make a big difference because most of us here would assume
you were posting them to get advice on them - and, Matt's notifying you
that one was an Invention would certainly be some worthwhile advice to a
composer who was trying to write a fugue but didn't quite understand the
form.

All you saw is an anonymous "John" who posted four links.
> Whether "John" is the author or not, says nothing to you, perse, since you
> don't know who "John" is.

While in this day and age anonymity is important, it also, because of the
amount malintended posts around here, can lead to suspicion. I'm just simply
informing you that posting links without any other information would be seen
a suspicious by most other posters, and if you want to engage in
discussions, it might be more effective to let people know your intentions.

>
>> In the future, it might be nice to
>> preface your post with "hey, I found some neat fugues..." or "these are
> not
>> mine, but I thought they were interesting...", otherwise, it could come
> off
>> that you're being less than honest.
>
> Sure, in case you knew me by name, and if I tried to obviously appropriate
> someone else's work. In view of the fact that you don't know who I am by
> name and whether I am the author or not, your point is moot.
>
>> Just some non-confrontational non-derogatory advice.
>
> Thanks. And if you have some more useful advice, please confine it to the
> works themselves, instead.

This is the entire point John. I can't give any useful advice to you about a
piece you did not compose.

LSL


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