Re: Rachmaninov second symphony
- From: "Figaro" <Barber@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:46:41 GMT
"jpjones" <justplaynejones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Apr 5, 12:58 am, Taffy Brendel <taffy_Bren...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Apr 4, 11:06 am, jpjones <justplaynejo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:53 pm, "Gerard" <ghen_nospam_drik...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, that is what you *think* .
It is evident in the way they are seen as "simply evil".
It is not evident only because you say or think so.
Like you said "I know most Americans still think that Japanese are
simply evil".
It's only an assertion. It's no evidence.
You are both wrong. Most Americans know very little about history,
especially history outside the borders. Just go around and ask people
about the Korean war, see what percentage knows what it was about,
what kind of horrible carnage there was, or even _when_ it happened.
Knowing very little or nothing does not, of course, prevent people
from having prejudices and beliefs based on nothing. The racism
against the Japanese was appalling. So was the racism against Germans
long before that, including the suppression of the German language in
the US.
On the contrary there is evidence against the notion of the German
language
being suppressed at least within certain localities.
This might be of intereste to you.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102523977
That German survived in Wisconsin (as did Norwegian in some towns)
does not negate the fact that there was a general movement to suppress
it. Just like the fact that Spanish is the de facto language in many
parts of the US would not negate a movement to suppress it. The point
is not whether the effort to suppress is successful or not, but
whether there was such an effort, and there was, and it was
widespread. Clearly a xenophobic move, as if a language had magical
elements, in this case, "evil" elements, to use a favorite concept of
knownothingism. As if it were written somewhere that a country as
enormous as the US should have only one language. As if people who
speak one language were intrinsically better than those who speak
another. The case that occupies us, which is the concentration camps
for the Japanese and their descendants in the US, is the exact
equivalent of the rounding up and concentration of Gypsies and Jews in
various European countries.
jpj
Poppy***. How many Japanese were murdered?
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