Re: Johanna Martzy Dvorak DGG 10" LPE 17178 on ebay
- From: "mirkoslav" <mivanek@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:49:51 +0200
They wouldn't be taken "seriously" if they used CDs as a source. Even
though it would in many situations sound better.
Why not? As said, they only care about sound quality = money earned. As a
mater of fact majority of today's audiophiles (some 70% or so) are on
digital only sources. It might have some marketing in it, but to many of
them hearing proper analog setup is shocking. Have in mind that many of them
never ever had analog setup and it is not about memories thing.
You're right. The master tape, stored properly, has the potential (if
remastered properly onto CD) to sound better than a vinyl LP which started
out a generation (or 2 or 3 or 4) removed from the master tape.
You see, there is a difference. I did not bring any conclusion on better or
worse, because it is subjective thing. Can it have potential to sound good.
Maybe yes, but we can not compare different things. You are always hearing
the mastering equipment, which played the source during the process. And
there you can have end product done well or not. Some CDs can sound better
then some vinyl, no question. It's about potentials and limitations one or
the other format bears. In all aspects of reproduced sound that mater to me
vinyl is superior to red book. You can have different priorities in sound
and you maybe don't care about the things essential to me. It's all about
fooling our brain and we are all different. Trust your ears is old
audiophile saying, I really do not care what the machines say. Please note
that I do have both digital and analog setups myself and that there is music
I rather listen on CD, simply because some aspects linked to the type of
music, make vinyl advantages less important and CD is way more practical.
But until you hear well recorded/mastered/pressed vinyl on stuff like
violin, cello, piano, voice, small acoustical pieces etc, you simply don't
know what you are missing on CD. Analog is expensive, that's true, but we do
not discuss practicality here. In a sense you are talking about properly
stored tape, then such tape can sound even better on today's vinyl and with
labels that have mastering/pressing line done right. Check some DCC or MoFi
releases, but not just them. I recently showcased the difference with some
ECM, Harmonia Mundi and DGG discs to "objective" digital audiophile. We had
to do it 3 times. First my $30k digital front end was the reason for such
huge difference between back and shiny discs of same performance. Then for
next session he had to bring his own, less expensive ("but better") CD
player. This of course made the difference even bigger. Third try was that I
had to take my secondary table and phono stage into his system, "because my
was tuned so that digital loses". After this last attempt, at his place and
in his system, he bought my secondary analog setup in full. He was simply
not aware...
Trying to explain audio with numbers and figures and machines is really
silly. Our psychoacoustical systems are different and we should not try to
convince each other that one or the other format is better, or that me or
you are gold eared standards for good or bad sound. After all, it should be
music that maters and each of us should hear for himself what brings music
closer to him.
I will assume he bought the Japanese CD (maybe with different contents?)
before the "DG Originals" CD was released. Or at least that is one
plausible explanation.
Maybe. But I also heard so many times that Japanese CDs are better. And
wondered how could they be better, having "zeros and ones" theory in mind,
so often defended by the very same people.
.
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