Re: Bruno Walter's Columbia Symphony principle players?



On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:33:28 -0400, Sacqueboutier
<don_patt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On 8/31/05 6:23 AM, in article BF3AFD65.9A27%noname@xxxxxxxxx, "Tom Deacon"
><noname@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
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>> On 8/31/05 6:10 AM, in article BF3AFA5E.8D12%don_patt@xxxxxxxxxxx,
>> "Sacqueboutier" <don_patt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>> On 8/31/05 1:14 AM, in article
>>> 1125465283.693231.100190@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Todd Schurk"
>>> <patterbear@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've recently been enjoying the stereo Walter Beethoven symphony
>>>> cycle(after not having heard it in ages)and have enjoyed the playing of
>>>> the wind principle players. I know these were recorded in L.A.(except
>>>> for the 9th finale perhaps?) Were the lead players from Hollywood
>>>> studio orchestras or the L.A. Phil? Or both? Anyone? I like the cycle
>>>> much more than I remember I had in the past. With age comes...?
>>>>
>>>
>>> LA Phil I believe. The lead players from the Hollywood studios would not
>>> sound quite the delicate.
>>
>> I think Walter took players frome everywhere.
>>
>> Mister Bloom was not a local Californian, I think.
>>
>> TD
>>
>
>Bloom played in the CSO in California? I do know that there were different
>ensembles labeled "Columbia SO" depending on where the recording took place.
>I had always believed that Cerminaro was his principal horn in the LA
>sessions.

Cerminaro entered the NY Phil without an audition as assistant
principal while still at Juilliard in 1969. When Kuyper (the new
Associate to replace Chambers) did not pass his one year probation,
Kuyper's and Cerminaro's contracts were switched. When Singer retired
a few years later Cerminaro was made principal. Cerminaro was
Chamber's favorite student of that era. When Cerminaro fell in love
with his Paxman Hi F horn which he started playing in 1975 for the
Schumann Koncertstuck, he was forced out by Chambers and the section
players who were there since the Chambers era.

It is not him on the Walter CSO recordings. It is more likely one of
the Principals of the LA Phil or Vinny DeRosa

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