Re: NBC special " The Mysterious Origins of Man"

On Jun 29, 11:31 am, Richard F Sayage Savage Classical Guitar
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Whoa...Atlantis isn't real?

:-)

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William D Clinger wrote:
Correction:  In my statement of the theorem, "w/N" should
have been "w/(N-1)".  (That's why my example used N=51
instead of N=50.)  Tashi/MT somehow failed to notice my
error.

Tash/MT wrote:

  Read again!  I never once stated a non sentient observer could not
observe, or change, the outcome of the experiment.  Those are clearly
words you put in my mouth, it might get by those casually reading this
thread, but it didn't get by me. I see now Clinger your real strength
lies in how you manipulate words and facts.  As I mentioned many times
you have a "dirty bag of tricks".

Now you are lying about what you said, while trying to
cover up by accusing me of the dirty trick you're using.

Yes, let's read the exchange again.  You were badgering
Wollybird about "how could you observe the results of an
experiment without conciseness?"

I wrote:

"If you had any real understanding of quantum mechanics
you would know that the "observation" you're talking
about here is a kind of quantum interaction that does
not require a sentient observer."

You responded:

That's an impossibility!

So you said it was impossible for a non-sentient observer
to observe the outcome.  Now you say you never said that.

I'll repeat my yes/no question for you:

Are we supposed to take it seriously when proudly illiterate
folk with no apparent knowledge of mathematics or science
blather endlessly about what they've heard on talk radio
or plagiarized from woo-woo web sites concerning mathematics,
quantum physics, the B-2 bomber's anti-gravity propulsion
system, philosophy of science, Atlantis, archaeology, biological
evolution, and any other subject they understand not at all? glacier

Will

Western archeologists preach the doctrine, that civilization began
6000 years ago, ( do you see a correlation with Judeo/Christian
doctrine?) before that, humans were just a bunch of hunter gatherers,
that mutated into Homo Sapiens, during 150,000 years of an ice age.

The Ice age forced humans to inhabit a more temperate climate, the
coastal areas away from the interiors of the ice cavered continents of
Europe, and America, Keep in mind NYC was covered by a two mile high
glacier.

Roughly 14,000 years ago to 12,000 the glaciers started to melt.
Here is a link to NOVA, and just one example of the Cataclysmic effect
of an isolated event happening in North America.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E91C9ED58402E68E&search_query=Nova+the+megaflood

Keep in mind this was happening at the same time all over the world.
Imagine the effects in the Himalayas, and the mountains of Europe,
when Glaciers broke forth with the volumes of water equal to Lake
Michigan and Lake Superior simultaneously throughout the world. In
one day it was calculated that the sea level rose 30 feet, accompanied
by tsunamis and earthquakes. Imagine if this were to happen today?

Therre are more than 1000 accounts of a great deluge or flood by
cultures around the globe. Plato's account most likely that of a very
fertile Mediterranean valley fed by the freah water Nile rivers as
well as many rivers from Europe.

According to Plato's account The Atlantians were masters of the sea,
this would account for the similarities of cultures, Pryamids,
Mythology etc. thoughout Africa, and South America. It's either that
or "Clingers Childish/Gibberish Theorem"

Around 5.9 million years ago,[9] the connection between the
Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean along the Bethic and Rifan
Corridor was progressively restricted until its total closure,
effectively causing the salinity of the Mediterranean to periodically
fall within the gypsum and salt deposition range, during what is known
as the Messinian Salinity Crisis. This water chemistry environment,
when dissolved mineral concentrations, temperature and stilled water
currents combined properly and occurred regularly to precipitate many
mineral salts in sea floor bedded layers. The resultant accumulation
of various huge salt and mineral deposits about the Mediterranean
basin are directly linked to this era. It is not believed this process
took a long time geologically, lasting only 500-600 thousand-years,
for it is further estimated that were the straits closed even at
today's higher sea level, most water in the Mediterranean basin would
evaporate within only a thousand years; as it is believed to have done
then,[9] and such an event would lay down similar mineral deposits as
those such as the fabulous salt mines now found under the sea floor
off of Sicily.

The Vedas perhaps are the greatest source of information during this
time, and recently there have been discovered Cities under 150 feet of
water, off the coasts off eastern and southern India.
see here..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lf5wLhG7w8&feature=related

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