Re: The Rodrigo and Berg concertos


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Are you familiar with AG's music? If so do you feel his 12 tone
music is "math, not music" compared to his pieces which are not 12
tone?

Whatever one can say of AG's music (this newsgroup has hosted even the
Judgements of people who clearly never read the scores!), suggesting a
connection with "math" can't be right, simply because AG ignores math: he
is scarcely capable of calculating the result of an addition with two
factors.

Twelve-tone technique was forged by Arnold Schoenberg in order to express
his own feels and emotions: he clearly and loudly states this point. In
art - beyond the level of academic exercises - technique is always the
instrument of an emotion. The different ways 12 tone technique has been
used in the 20th century depend from the different emotions which inspired
each composer: there is an enormous difference between the music of
Schoenberg and the music of the Italian 12 tone user Luigi Dallapiccola,
just to mention one of those musicians who made an expressive use of this
technique. There are some composers whose music has been based upon math -
according to statements which are pretty hard to demonstrate, but for sure
they are not Schoenberg and Berg, whose works are always emotionally very
intense and expressive: too much, perhaps! Xenakis, for instance, is a
composer whose music is told to be based upon maths, but I would challenge
those who said that to derivate from his scores the calculations which he
used.

Besides, I believe that the balance between 12 tone technique and guitar
is very hard to find, and those composers who succeeded in attaining such
a balance are few ones: Hans Erich Apostel, Ernst Krenek, Jurg Baur,
Richard Rodney Bennett...who did not write very much for the guitar: their
12 tone works show that it is possible to write a good piece for guitar,
but they did not follow to demostrate how it would be possible to follow
the path of an evolution, within such a border!

ag


Yes! It's hard to be excluded from the joy of experimenting a cluster of
twelve notes on a single guitar ...
maybe two, three, four guitars would be a better setting for such an
experiment.

Alain

Alain


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