Re: OT Pilots for 911 Truth

On Jun 25, 3:10 pm, Rob Balsamo <pilotsfortr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok... im spending way too much time here with people who obviously
arent well informed.. .but i'll address this before i go...

please feel free to email us or join our forums with any questions...

On Jun 25, 4:33 pm, Andrew Schulman <abaca...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That is quite an evasive answer Rob!  You do have beliefs about this
don't you?  

I used to believe the govt story hook, line and sinkier. Perhaps you
should click links and read...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilots#Balsamo

What you do or don't believe is quite relevant.  

Thats your opinion. I disagree. But i already told you what i used to
"believe". Now im not so sure anymore.

And you
mention facts.  There is of course John Adams' well-known quotation,
"facts are stubborn things".

Try telling that to the many govt loyalists who say they have "facts"
yet use excuse.

 But who arrives at the "facts" and how
they arrive at the "facts" is important, don't you agree?

Agreed. Who would know more about the facts i present.. you? Or these
people

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core

The facts we present are as simple as 2+2=4 for anyone who takes a
little bit of time to study. If you are arguing "interpretation" of
Pressure altitude vs. True altitude, that is like arguing an
interpretation of 2+2=4 may be in error, because you dont understand
it.

 Would you
also agree that one person's fact is another person's distortion.  

2+2=4.. is that a s"distortion"? That is how easy our facts are to
understand. Im sorry you wont take the time to understand the facts
and instead make up excuse.

You
seem to believe this because you claim the 911 Commission's "facts"
are wrong and or distortions.

That is fact. Once again i have to remind you to click and read...

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon
Scroll to bottom (or not, but millions have)

"We were set up to fail, we didnt have enough time, we didnt have
enough money... alot of people have things to hide... " - Lee
Hamilton: Co-Chair, 9/11 Commission

So, would you also agree that what you believe is important?

I beleive accountability is important. I once used to make excuses for
the govt story, just like you. Im not only a NYer (no, not a stock
broker felon as you tried to imply), but also an Airline pilot and
American. 9/11 was a triple blow to me. I was based Laguardia on 9/11
and was supposed to fly that day. I was one of the first back in the
air. When i came home from my trip, i called every military branch to
offer my services to go get the big bad terrahist. They told me they
were "all set" for pilots and told me i would be better serving our
country staying a civilian pilot by getting America "back in the air".

May 2006 blew me away. Again, click and read...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilots#Balsamo

Andy, did you offer your services?



Fact - Flight Data Recorder Information claimed to be from AA77
provided by a govt agency does not support AA77 impact with the
Pentagon.

Actually, that is your interpretation of this material, isn't that
true?

Are you arguing you dont know how to interpret 2+2=4?

Again... click, read.. study.http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core. Its
not only my "interpretation"



Was it ever established, factually established beyond doubt, that it
wasn't Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon?  Your website information
doesn't do that.

You are asking us to offer theory. The only people who have offered
theory is the US Govt. A govt known for lies, corruption, cover-ups
and crime. You "believe" them. We dont. The factual conflicts with the
govt story are numerous and widespread. The lists of people
questioning the govt story grow.



Many govt loyalists

Interesting term!  You used it here already today to say that 2-4 of
us here are "govt loyalists".  What do you mean by that?  I assume by
this jargon you are saying people who support the Bush administration

You assume wrong. See above.



...do you accept govt agencies distributing error filled data to
the American public through the Freedom Of Information Act using your
tax dollars?

Of course not, what a silly idea!

So why arent you calling the NTSB/FBI like we are? Because you cant
"interpret" 2+2=4?

Most govt loyalists dont even argue "our" interpretation anymore. They
make the excuse the NTSB is in error. You need to get up to speed
Andy. You're using excuse from 2 years ago.



If not, what do you think happened to the plane and passengers?

Try clicking the link this time...http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?s=&showtopic=7591&view=...
(you'll have to register to see it, and im sure you'll make the excuse
not to read it because you have to register

Why are you sure I won't register Rob?  Is this is a sign of your
better judgement? If it is, oops, you've got a judgement problem!

I look forward to your comments after you actually click and read. If
past performance is any indication. I expect to see more of holding
your hand (providing links). But i warn you, i dont have tolerance for
apathy as you appear to demonstrate.



Anyway, you certainly have some technical problems at your website.  I
registered, got the e-mail to complete the registration, logged in,
everything went through, clicked on the "Where's the Bodies" article,
but it wouldn't open.  Tried four times!  No matter, I'll try again
later.

Others dont seem to have a problem in over 2000 registered. You MT?



You mean the "Al Qaeda" head up by Osama Bin Laden who we went into
Afghanistan to "Smoke him out", yet the FBI doesnt even list OBL as a
suspect for 9/11 due to "No Hard Evidence Linking Bin Laden to 9/11"?
That ":Al-Qaeda"?

Yep, that Osama Bin Laden!  And that Al-Qaeda!

Here are two interesting articles for you to read:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/06/02/080602fa_fact_wrighthtt...

They may supply some valuable information to you.

Your link dont work.



I could go into alot more regarding pilots skills. But please, lets
stick to topic. Any comments on the FDR?

Of course not, I'm a guitarist!  But I can read and think logically;
music is very good for the brain, here's another great book for you:

http://www.amazon.com/This-Your-Brain-Music-Obsession/dp/0525949690

And my ability to read and think logically helps me decipher the
evasive post you just wrote to us here and to get a good sense of what
your website is all about, in context of the whole tragedy of 9/11.

So, you'd rather hear my "beliefs" than facts?

My beliefs are that the govt story doesnt add up. I want to know why.
You seem to make excuses based on your ignorance (you dont even know
the difference between true/pressure altitude for crying out loud.).



http://tinyurl.com/5ogzdg

Rob, I see you sell a lot of merchandise at your site, how's business
these days?

Yes Andy, we need to raise funds to operate. Do you criticize  Fox
News for raising capital to spread lies and Britney news? Or do you
take what Fox says as gospel.

Trying to attack the support structure of such an organization as ours
demonstrates the "scraping of the bottom of the barrel" for attacks.
Try not to look so desperate.



Best regards,
Andrew

And to you...
Rob

Rob I had no problem registering and I'm mystified by the computer.
BTW, Sorry to have dragged you into this barnyard. Andy and Clinger
are emotionalists patriots. Imagine they think it's a crime to
question the gov.
MT
.

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