Re: Interesting interview with Tony Bramwell

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On 1 nov, 15:25, Bernie Woodham <birnhamw...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Nov 1, 12:48 pm,Crisstti<crissttigalda...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Wow, Tnoy Bramwell really disliked Yoko!.

I get the impression that many of the "Beatles insiders" who've
written books - and I say this not having read any of them,
just from what I've read about them - seem to have liked Paul
better, or to have had a somewhat higher opinion of him than
of John.

It could just be that in the end, Paul was just the more
organized and prepared of the four. Probably also the more
intelligent.

It's said that the early Beatles, (from their formation to
about '66), was John's band. But when you look at the old
concerts and interviews, it really seems as though Paul is the
spokesman.

In the online documentary of Epstein I posted, it is said that
The Beatles was John's band until Epstein came along. And
Epstein turned it into Paul's band. John never was happy with
the marketing.

But Brian was John's partner in changing the credits to Lennon/
McCartney (who knows in exchange for what!, lol).

I had always had the impression that Brian would side more with
John.

That impression may have been encouraged to make John feel more
secure about things. Likewise the songwriting credit thing may
have been decided for John for the same reason, to help John save
face. But watch a lot of the old footage and it's Paul that seems
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Paul had a handsome face and was good at PR. But I've seen or read
interviews where Paul is the first to say that "John is the
leader." Also if you read books about the early days such as Larry
Kane's Ticket to Ride (or perhaps some others . . . . I can't
recall all the details) if Paul had a business concern, he would
tell John about it, and then John would speak to Brian Epstein
about it.

I think your memory is being way too selective and a bit biased. I'd
like to see specific examples. Specific quotes.

Here is an article which claims John was the leader until 1967:

http://aboutthebeatles.com/biography_johnlennon.php

After John died, Ringo gave an interview. I can't recall the exact
quote . . . . It may have been in response to Paul making certain
statements trying to put John down to elevate his own stature in the
Beatles. Ringo stated something to the effect of that no matter how
one tells the story, the Beatles were John's band.- Ocultar texto de
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Well, uite a rude thing to say if he did.  And I opinion I disagree
with.  John might have been more of a leader than Paul, for a
personality thing, but The Beatles were John's and Paul's band.  And I
think they both knew that.

I don't think that was true at the beginning.  I think it gradually
evolved, so that by the time of A Hard Day's Night the leadership roles
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Yeah... but then how do you explain the McCartney/Lennon credits?.

I'm not sure what you mean.  Paul gave a couple of interviews about
that.  I believe in England there were a couple of very early Beatles
releases where the credits were McCartney/Lennon.  Paul reported that
there came a time when he went to speak with Brian and John, who
suddenly told Paul that all future songs would be credited Lennon/
McCartney.  Paul claimed he was not thrilled about that but it was
presented to him as a done deal and he did not make a stink at the
time.

Some where along the line, Paul and John named their company, "McLen
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What I mean is that Paul having had his name first in the credits
originally, doesn't go much with the idea that at the beginning John
was the leader.

Paul has said that John's travel with Brian to Spain was done on his
part as a "power grab" on his part, to make the change in the credits.
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