Re: OT: Youth In Asia

On Aug 13, 8:54 am, Fattuchus <fattuc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 11, 8:15 am, Jeff <yourimageunre...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Aug 11, 9:56 am, Fattuchus <fattuc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 11, 9:45 am, Jeff <yourimageunre...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 8, 8:48 pm, Dale Houstman <d...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jeff wrote:
On Aug 8, 1:04 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Fattuchus <fattuc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 8, 12:01 pm, LookingGlass <goldencocke...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 8, 12:15 am, Jeff <yourimageunre...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 7, 10:54 pm, LookingGlass <goldencocke...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Palin pushing "death panel" healthcare debate on her Facebook page.
Oh boy!
www.Shemakhan.com
I believe for the first time..she's saying something intelligent.
I was all for it in the beginning. Maybe I need to read the
fine print before deciding.
Jeff
Palin and Mush Limberger are comparing Obama to Hitler...HITLER...!!!
They claim Obama's Healthcare Bill will euthanize old folks and
handicapped folks like they did in Nazi Germany.
Obama's proposed plan would not euthanize old folks and handicapped
folks; however his health plan does not view old folks and handicapped
folks as equals to younger and healthier people.
On what basis do you claim this?

I understand one of
his advisers is Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel, Rahm's brother.  Dr. Emmanuel is
a physician and ethicist; he believes that not all lives are created
equally, and that too much money is wasted on keeping old people
alive.  According to Dr. E., old people are old and they are not as
worthy as a sick younger person.
Got a cite?

I have not read Palin's suggestions, but based on what I've seen
discussed here, she is right on this one.
Maybe it would help if you read or listened to what she said first.

Exactly, Rich, and the same thing I should have done before
speaking up. I only read one article online, and that's not
much to go on.

Jeff

You know Jeff, this is getting to be a pattern of rather disturbing
behavior on your part. You say some outrageously dumb thing, follow that
with a couple of whining bits of defensiveness, then spurt out a "I
shoulda used my brains in the first place" apology. You would think you
would learn by now of your tendency to say really stupid things before
any consideration, and simply shut up until you actually know something.

You know - despite the white noise being put out by the corporate tools,
this isn't rocket science: the idea that the administration is actually
proposing letting old people die as a form of rationing is not only
nonsensical on the face of it, but is unsupported by the total reality
that has been parading before your eyes and ears for months now. The
notion that you simply haven't read enough on it to make a decision is
either pure balderdash, or you're as thick as a mud carpet. This isn't
precisely a great mystery: both the so-called Tea Parties and the vocal
and obnoxious presence at the townhall meetings are funded by (and
provided talking points by) Freedom Works, which is a known front for
corporate interests, and especially for insurance companies. You think
that indicates something? You might not mind being a corporate asswhore,
but even a self-respecting village idiot would know better than to screw
their own interests over because some HMO CEO fuckwit wants to protect
their 10 billion dollar bonus, which is exactly what one of them got
last year. That's health care dollars at work. And all you can do is go
about screeching about an imaginary "death panel"? And then drooling out
ANOTHER lame "I shoulda read a little bit more".

Mental cripple...

dmh

Okay, Dale, it's time to tell you the truth...cause I guess you
haven't read
any of my past posts about this subject: To a certain extent, I guess
you could call me a "mental cripple." At four years of age, I was
jumping up and down on a bed, and I hit my head so hard on the
bed, part of the wood splintered off into my head. So, since 1959,
it's about all I can do.. .to barely pay attention to a conversation
for any
length of time, to watch TV for any any length of time,  to read a
paragraph for any length of time..and to speak to anyone for any
length of time..before I completely lose track of what the hell I'm
talking about...and this  is all before I even started kindergarden.
So...if you really enjoy calling me a "mental cripple"...........

One big thing I have over you though, is that I have never
called anyone names. I treat everyone with respect,
and I'm polite to people..despite all the difficulities
I have faced in my 53 years of existance. I suppose
I could sit here, and find fault with you..and be like
you...but I'm not into it. What I am into is making
people feel good..and not bad.

Jeff

Jeff, I like you just the way you are, and I bet many others here feel
that way too.

Thanks, Fatt. It means so much to me that you would say that.
Anyhow..staying with this subject, I have had medicare for
a number of years..and if this plan of Obama's take effect,
I would probably have to pay the expenses out of my own
pocket. (The extra expenses) This is not even related to
Palin..but from what I understand, a person would pay a
fine if they don't sign up.

I think the way a lot of people think is like this:
For example, just because I like Obama and he
happens to be a Democrat, does not mean I
or anyone should have to like or accept
everything he says, or has planned. I do think
this is our government intruding into our lives.
Maybe they say now that we will also have
choices as far as private insurance goes. But,
what if we trusted our government to do that
and they change their minds after we accept
it? There would be no turning back, to the
way it is now.

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I like the system the way it is now. Perhaps it needs a little
improvement, but Obama's plan is too radical for me.

I'm sure this plan will keep changing, so we need to
keep our minds open..to the latest proposals...
before we make our final decisions. And we're
all in different situations. I can understand why Rich
is for this..for his son. I would be too, if that was
my sons situation. But, I'm against it because of
the situation I'm in, I've been on medicare (as I've
stated previously) for a number of years. And
if things are changed...I will probably have to pay
for additional expenses, out of my own pocket.
So..we all need to be respectful of each others
situations...and not just think of our own in
these discussions. In the end anyway, I don't
think our opinions matter that much with our
government.

Jeff
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