Re: OT Mo Dowd Alert! Attn Slip Kid...

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"Slip Kid" <G-2@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Francie wrote:


You're over the top with the Blame Game, Michael. 

Yes, I refuse to condone a pre-emptive invasion of a soverign country
when the reasons for the action were known to be not true by the very
people who offered them as justification.

I can think of few occasions where blame should not be assigned.

Deception was used to take a country to war.

Principals involed in the decisions admit that.

If no one is held accountable, the consequences will be regretable.
They pale to any 'personal' blame inferred in the motive you assign to me.


Relax your grip, take a deep breath -- maybe even
stop talking "at me" (start by dropping your assumptions
about my party affiliation) and maybe I'll be interested
enough to continue "discussing" this.


Party affiliation is no longer a fator as concerns the policies of the
administration.
I cited yesterday to Senate votes in overwhelming opposition to
adminstation policy.  No, it is not likely a 90 -9 vote againt an
administration policy can be laid at the feet of the opposing party.

It is no longer a matter of defending or supporting a party. The very
party the administration represents is at odds with the policy they are
presenting..


War is Hell... but it ain't bein' fought in rmb. 

I can't speak to what is or is not permitted in this group.

However, if a subject is provided for discussion I will will not ignore
lack of logic, the refusal to introduce facts and any failure to admit
the truth.

When the topic is war, the standards of debate demand objectivity. Any
attachment to persons or personality are soon enough proved to be an
unwise strategy.

My conduct is not directed toward persons or parties, but actions.  I am
confident my objectivity will prevail.

I am also  encourged to see people who might be tempted to view these
issues in a typical political fashion  are beginning to recognize that
my point of view is removed from partisan affiliation.

If any policy demands national consensus it is when a country conducts
military operations.

By any measure, the current policy lacks convincing support.  A nation
which goes to war in order to establish demorcracy cannot do so without
the support of its own citizens.

The  harm we cause to any enemy cannot be at the expense of our own
values and morality.

We cannot suspend the principals upon which the nation was founded,  If
we do, the enemy of the ideals we have made a great sacrifice to
protect? That enemy is us.


I agree all the way across the board. Michael.

"across the board"...and not quite up to Exile On Main Street... (I have a rilly neat Monopoly Game)

Ah, it's just music.

Thanks...

Your stance is not so

unique, simply that many don't even bother voicing it given the angry
bellows from the right.

"Angry ellows" along with questioning patriotism and a few other limp tricks are beginning to echo off tjhe walls - - That the room is becoming more vacant every day.

> Who needs THAT grief?

I think the above question was the final slide on one of Rover's PPoint presentations that slipped out.

I s'pose it musta worked in Texas politics. Now that his own party isn't willing to stake their fate to his schemes he'll have to take that snake oil back to the lone star state...

But hey, "not so unique" doesn't begin to describe my pov. Not everyone on the right is bellowing out of stupidity. Some are plain scared"

"This country can't afford three years of drift and neither can the world. The president of the United States of America has to be at the top of his game."
Ken Duberstein
http://tinyurl.com/ckusn

Check out his resume. He knows a bit about meses.
If I was employed at the WH I'd not want to see him at the gate with his cleaning crew.

Michael
--
"If you're not in the recording studio you might as well not do it, because you might get it.
And if you get it, hell stop.
Because it's not a question of how well you play, it's a question of how well you play once."
Jim Dickinson - American record producer, pianist and singer.

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