Re: Yup ( was)Re: Is It Over? (nbc)

D.F. Manno wrote:
In article <QPGdnQRkDc0RK83VnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Evolution <myname@xxxxxxx> wrote:

D.F. Manno wrote:
In article <P7OdnQ4kxqDrsNLVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Evolution <myname@xxxxxxx> wrote:

The war authorization would have passed even if NOT ONE democrat voted for it.
As usual, you're wrong. The breakdown of the House vote was:

Rep 215 aye, 6 nay, 2 not voting
Dem 81 aye, 126 nay, 1 not voting
Ind 1 nay
Total 296 aye, 133 nay, 3 not voting

If all Democrats had voted against the AUMF, it would have failed on a tie vote, 215-215:

Rep 215 aye, 6 nay, 2 not voting
Dem 208 nay
Ind 1 nay

In the Senate, the vote was:

Rep 48 aye, 1 nay
Dem 29 aye, 21 nay
Ind 1 nay
Total 77 aye, 23 nay.

If all Democrats had voted nay, it would have been defeated 52-48:

Rep 48 aye, 1 nay
Dem 50 nay
Ind 1 nay
Yes, I said I was wrong, but you are including Lieberman as a dem... so the true vote would have been:

rep 49 aye, 1 nay
dem 49 nay

At the time Lieberman _was_ a Democrat. He didn't become a turncoat until after his 2006 primary defeat.
and only 1 dem would have had to vote aye to tie it, and Cheney would have voted aye.

You're moving the goalposts. You said "if NOT ONE democrat voted for it" [your emphasis]. If no Democrat had voted for the AUMF, Cheney would never have gotten the chance to vote.


I'm not moving the goalposts. I admitted I was wrong to say "if not one". You see? And then we move on with the discussion about whether it would have passed without Hillary's vote.

Laurie
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