Re: NBC-Hillary: Please Fall on Your Sword

On Feb 25, 11:31 pm, angelagrace <cryinthe...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
susan wrote:


http://www.newwest.net/city/article/hillary_please_fall_on_your_sword...
Hillary: Please Fall on Your Sword
By Jill Kuraitis, 2-24-08
C'mon, Hil: we have a real chance to win the presidency. If you fight
to the finish, you'll divide the Democratic party at a time when a
rare unity is upon us.

We had rare unity last time around; this time, not so much since it's
democracy, or some approximation thereof, in action. Obama has around
half the dem vote so far, so why is he not dividing the party by
staying in?

Because unlike Hillary he's had the campaign organizational skills
to win the last 11 primaries/caucuses in a row.
If Hillary's campaign is this disfunctional in a primary, I'm scared
to see how poorly organized it would be in a general election. Would
Angela, Laurie or another Hillary supporter explain to me how it will
help the party and unify it if Hillary is trailing in pledged
delegates heading into the convention, has won fewer states, but yet
emerges with the nomination?



It's clearly the will of the party - more states, more delegates -
that Obama is our nominee. He's ignited a new generation, and they
won't donate or volunteer if you're the nominee. To them, you're old-
timey.

The will of the party can be found on the convention floor as opposed
to these primaries, but I guess that's the fearful thing motivating
the Step Aside Series by ObamaNation. But then, I guess I'm old-timey
since I won't donate or volunteer if Obama is the nominee. I'll just
step aside. I may even vote 'present' as an homage on the big day.

Then why not press the DNC to force all states to have closed
primaries and screw over the voters who aren't registered to a party,
but are inspired or motivated to get out to the polls and vote for a
candidate? Then you'd have the will of the party decided in the
primaries and not the convention floor.




If you're the nominee, we'll lose. Can't you feel it?

Clearly not. And the fact that you can't feel it - or refuse to
believe it - is one of the reasons you're not our pick. You've lost
touch with the Democratic zeitgeist, especially in the West.

Lessee, since she thinks she can win, she's a loser, despite what a
rudimentary analysis of the demographics reveals - she can win big
time with the gender gap. Obama on the other hand, doesn't have the
demographic groups that turn out, and will almost certainly not
survive the GOP meat-grinder, as those who've survived already,
including Hillary, like to call it. I'm seeing why there's a big psych-
out in-progress in the media.

In the Potamac primaries Obama lead Hillary in the exit polls of
nearly every demographic group. If people are inspired by a candidate
they'll get out to vote.
If he can survive the negative campaigning that Hillary's dishing
out now and use the GOP tactics now (Hillary's the one that said Obama
was using the "Carl Rove playbook"), he can surely survive the GOP
attacks. The mailers she chided Obama for have been circulating for a
couple of weeks, but yet instead of calling him on it during the
debate in Texas, she acts all chummy with him. Then a few days later
says "Shame on you" - what kind of response is that?
Republicans will have a field day with her if she responds to a GOP
attack by saying "Shame on you Senator McCain"


But we don't owe you the job, which you seem to believe. That has
mightily ticked off Bill's old fans. Until you reined him in last
week, he wasn't doing you any good, you know. His sense of
entitlement - for which he was already famous - is worse than yours.

It's the height of irony the word entitlement issuing forth from
someone enjoining a candidate with half the dem vote to step aside.
But she's right about Bubba, he shoulda been disappeared from the
campaign long ago. Seen but not heard, that's the ticket.

But if Obama had just lost 11 primaries/caucuses in a row the shouts
for him to step aside would be deafening. But because Hillary's last
name is Clinton, she was the presumed favorite heading into the
primary season and she has alot of connections inside the Washington
beltway the shouts aren't that loud yet, despite 11 LOSSES IN A ROW.
If she loses Ohio and Texas, even if its only by 5% per state, the
shouts for her to step aside will increase.

We
truly do realize you've done a lot of good in your political life.
We're sorry for the pain that unfortunately-loveable cad Bill has
caused you. We think it stinks that Americans tend to vote on
personality and their emotional reactions to candidates, instead of
voting on the issues. And we're sorry that this next reality hurts,
too.

But it must be said: too many people have a visceral dislike for you,
many of them Democrats. It's not all about your ideas, beliefs, or
stance on the issues. You just seem - well, cold. Calculating.
Grasping. Not to mention old-guard, inside-baseball politics.

And because the visceral haters make such a fuss, we must sideline the
best candidate in favor of the one who doesn't upset them so much. Now
there's a winning strategy - let the haters decide who should
represent the party.

If the campaign was truly about the issues and not about
personality, Bush would have never have won the presidency in the
first place, let alone re-election. Heck, Bill Clinton might not have
won the nomination or the presidency in 1992, but people liked a
saxaphone playing president (remember the Arsino Hall show
appearance). So personality has to matter just as much as the stance
on the issues. If knowledge and expertise on the issues mattered more
than personality we would have had Bradley vs. Bush in 2000 instead of
Gore.




Without crossover Republican votes, we can't win. Some Democrats will
cross the other way to vote for McCain, but darling: Republicans
won't cross to vote for you.

Anybody who passed Poli Sci 101 knows the dems don't need GOP votes to
win - dems are the prolific party, the GOP is the one with the
oversized pup tent. They enlarge the pup tent by running on god, guns
and gays and the ever-present meme of keeping women down which is part
and parcel of god, guns, and gays. Somebody needs to get their facts
learned real good right now - Obama Nation (the anybody but Hillary
hate vote) is not going to cross party lines to vote for Obama. Most
of the misogynists also happen to be racist; the two things go hand in
hand most of the time.

I minored in Poli Sci and have to tell you that you're wrong. The
country has changed. Independent voters - not registered to either
party - are the prolific ones in the country. Getting them to dems
side is the key to winning. Several states in the heartland that have
gone Republican forever in presidential elections have govs who are
Democrats, that was done by getting crossover votes. You need to swing
the independents and get some crossover support or else you can't win.
Obama has the ability to inspire people to get out in vote. To feel
good about a new direction for the country... think about JFK (was he
better qualified than Nixon, or did he just inspire people?), think
about Reagan (he inspired people with a new vision for the country at
a time when the economy was in the dumps).
If you get enough GOPs to crossover in swing states, you can win
those states. Dems are the prolific party in some parts of the
country, but over the last decade or so the GOP has gained a
stronghold in the heartland and in the south.
Obama is inspiring those independents in the open primary states to
come out and vote, Hillary isn't doing as good a job of it as Obama
is.


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