Re: Depression (NBC)
- From: Evolution <myname@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:10:56 -0800
an inconvenient Ruth wrote:
so... I haven't been able to find any decent science on any of the
anti- flouride websites.. and I have researched it a bit.. but this
anecdotal bit from my own experience.... ( I know, it doesn't count if
it's anecdotal but what the heck)...
I live in an non flouridated water town and so my gave kids flouride
supplements. One of them just had her first cavity. By the time I was
her age, (also had no flouride in my water), I had had three root
canals. My husband has a similar dental history. We have lousy teeth.
My kids don't. Flouride supplements . And they have bright and shiny
white teeth and don't have ADD and are very smart.
Ruth, cavities have become fewer almost everywhere in the world, as fluoride toothpaste and better hygiene and education have become the norm. Studies show that there is no difference in rates of cavities in fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas. There is NO recent study showing ingesting fluoride helps prevent cavities. None. I'm glad your children have good teeth, and I'm betting that you were far more diligent in making sure your children brushed their teeth than your parents were.
Did your children have an underdeveloped palate or need braces or have undescended teeth? White mottling? Broken bones?
" According to the current consensus view of the dental research community, fluoride's primary - if not sole - benefit to teeth comes from topical application to the surfaces of teeth (while in the mouth), and not from ingestion.
" Perhaps not surprisingly, therefore, tooth decay rates have declined at similar rates in all western countries in the latter half of the 20th century - irrespective of whether the country fluoridates its water or not. Today, tooth decay rates thoughout continental western Europe are as low as the tooth decay rates in the United States - despite a profound disparity in water fluoridation prevalence in the two regions.
" Within countries that do fluoridate their water (such as the United States and Australia), recent large-scale surveys of dental health - utilizing modern scientific methods not employed in the early surveys from the 1930s-1950s - have found little difference in tooth decay, including in "baby bottle tooth decay", between fluoridated and unfluoridated communities."
As for scientific evidence, here are some places to start. I don't think the study published in JAMA showing that fluoride causes hip fractures in those over 50 is online... but you can get a copy at your library. I used to have photocopies.
Here is the statement by the EPA employees:
http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/flouridestatement.htm
"Ingestion of fluoride linked to many health effects
"Contrary to assertions that the health effects of fluoride ingestion already have been scientifically proven to be safe and that there is no credible scientific concern, over the last fifteen years the ingestion of fluoride has been linked in scientific peer-reviewed literature to neurotoxicity7, bone pathology8, reproductive effects9, interference with the pineal gland 10, gene mutations11, thyroid pathology12, and the increasing incidence and severity of dental fluorosis13. This has caused professionals who once championed the uses of fluoride in preventing tooth decay, to reverse their position and call for a halt in further exposures.14 It is of significance that 14 Nobel Prize winning scientists, including the 2000 Nobel Laureate in Medicine, Arvid Carlsson, have expressed reservations on, or outright opposition to, fluoridation.15 "
The link to the studies is at the above url. That should give you plenty of scientific evidence to mull.
More stuff (this site has tons of studies cited):
http://fluoridealert.org/health/
http://fluoridealert.org/health/cancer/osteosarcoma.html
Don't know what causes lyme disease (other than it's carried by ticks), but this one shows how fluoride compromises your immune system...
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/immune/index.html
""[P]atients who live in either an artificially fluoridated community or a community where the drinking water naturally contains fluoride at 4 mg/L have all accumulated fluoride in their skeletal systems and potentially have very high fluoride concentrations in their bones. The bone marrow is where immune cells develop and that could affect humoral immunity and the production of antibodies to foreign chemicals.”
SOURCE: National Research Council. (2006). Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards. National Academies Press, Washington D.C. p 249."
From Wikipedia:
"New research has also found that chronic Lyme patients have higher amounts of Borrelia-specific forkhead box P3 (FoxP3) than healthy controls, indicating that regulatory T cells might also play a role, by immunosuppression, in the development of chronic Lyme disease. FoxP3 are a specific marker of regulatory T cells.[132] The signaling pathway P38 mitogen-activated protein kinases (p38 MAP kinase) has also been identified as promoting expression of pro-inflammatory cytokines from Borrelia.[133]
"The culmination of these new and ongoing immunological studies suggest this cell-mediated immune disruption in the Lyme patient amplifies the inflammatory process, often rendering it chronic and self-perpetuating, regardless of whether the Borrelia bacterium is still present in the host, or in the absence of the inciting pathogen in an autoimmune pattern.[134]"
Hope this helps...
Laurie
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