Re: Performers I Just Don't Get (and Never Got)


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On Jan 14, 6:14?pm, "stuthalb...@xxxxxxxxxxx"
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Aerosmith

They had one great album IMO Permanant Vacation. After that they
just became repetitive.

Wow... that's a... I'm speechless.

You are aware that Aerosmith existed prior to the 1980s, right?

Nirvana

I never got Nirvana or Pearl Jam.... just not my type of music I
guess.

Well, typeS of music, I suppose - Nirvana and PJ are as different as the
Sex Pistols and Springsteen...

And why is it that every song Led Zeppelin ever did is a Classic Rock
staple, including the Drum Solo, yet Deep Purple are mostly forgotten
except for "Hush, "SOTW," "Highway Star," "Space Truckin'" and "Woman
From Tokyo"?


You can't compare Deep Purple to Led Zeppelin, Zeppelin created Metal.


No, they really didn't.

If anyone can be credited with "creating" heavy metal, it would have to
be Black Sabbath. Zeppelin weren't a metal band at all.

I think LED ZEPPELIN II would beg to differ...

I don't.
Put zep II up against Paranoid - there's really no comparison.


well, according to wikipedia, the first known use of the term "heavy metal"
to describe a band was about Humble Pie, " In the November 12, 1970, issue
of Rolling Stone, he commented on an album put out the previous year by the
British band Humble Pie: "Safe As Yesterday Is, their first American
release, proved that Humble Pie could be boring in lots of different ways.
Here they were a noisy, unmelodic, heavy metal-leaden shit-rock band with
the loud and noisy parts beyond doubt. There were a couple of nice
songs...and one monumental pile of refuse." I don't think he liked it. Of
course, since LZ had already released an album by then, that does not really
affect their status as "first" - or not.

They also state that Blue Cheer's cover of Summertime Blues, in 1968, was
the first heavy metal recording (single), followed shortly thereafter by a
single from the last of the Yardbirds (soon to be LZ). They also cite
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, as the first metal album (this was the first album I
thought of as well. Never heard of Blue Cheer).

from other sources than wikipedia:
Rock critics and other people with too much time on their hands will forever
debate the pre-Black Sabbath origins of heavy metal -- we hear you, Blue
Cheer fans! -- but anyone operating within the ever-expanding boundaries of
that genre owes a debt to Birmingham, England's finest export. (Tampa
Tribune, 9/14/07)

It seems fitting that many pop music historians pinpoint the origin of heavy
metal rock to the power trio Mountain. Launched in the flower-power-drenched
late 1960s, the Long Island, N.Y., band had both an aural and physical
presence unlike any band before it. (St. Petersburg Times, June 2, 2007)

In a sweeping look at the origins of heavy metal, Dunn paints composer
Wagner as one of the godfathers of metal... (that is Wagner as in opera,
etc.) Courier Mail (Australia), November 23, 2006)

The received wisdom is that the Jeff Beck Group's Truth album of 1968 is the
first real heavy rock/metal album but, in terms of sheer impact, that honour
surely must go to the 1969 Led Zeppelin. Since then the music had been
distorted and fragmented out of all recognition. One consistent thing
though: as a genre it remains - and stubbornly so - largely a white, male,
teenage phenomenon. The Irish Times, September 10, 2004

a lot of people also credited the Kinks, in 1964 or so, with first creating
(?) the power chords and distortion that led to metal. From the same Irish
Times article:
"The first five notes of The Kinks' You Really Got Me single marked the
beginning of heavy metal. Strange but true. Here's how it happened: when Ray
Davies wrote You Really Got Me, brother Dave was charged with coming up with
the intro. The first few times he hacked something out, his girlfriend of
the time told him the playing was good but it didn't make her "want to drop
her knickers".

To produce something a bit more rasping and distorted, Dave Davies went over
to his little amplifier and cut the cone up with a razor blade. The
vibration of the fabric produced a hitherto unheard "fuzz" sound and those
five notes became one of the most legendary riffs in music. The irony of it
all was that, originally, Ray Davies played the intro on a piano, and he
thought he had come across a jazz riff.

An urban myth grew up around this intro. To this day, a large proportion of
Led Zeppelin fans will tell you that it was Jimmy Page (who, back in 1964,
was a noted session guitarist) who played the riff. While Page did play on
some Kinks records, he had nothing to do with this song."



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