Re: NBC - Romney's Religion Speech


"David" <acomp1ete1y@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:45:46 -0500, Ukes <duke_of_diddly@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Mormons don't drink. If Mormon's wanted to "force their beliefs" about
abstinence on the rest of the US, then I'd be anti-Mormon. But Utah
isn't dry, so I guess Mormons have more tolerance for those who don't
agree with their positions than some of their critics do.

Last time I was there, I think the law was that the bars were private
clubs of which you had to be a member to get served. It was all a big
wink-and-nod ("hey, anyone wanna' sponsor this fine gentleman into our
'club'?"), but in its own silly way it wasn't public access.
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Reply to david at habermehl dot com


there are some private clubs, like you suggest. But there are many regular
bars, brew pubs, etc. Also, you can buy beer or booze at restaurants as
well, no membership required. Last time I was there (last night of a
Yellowstone trip, 1998 or so), I had a few beers at the restaurant near out
hotel, no problem, no question, no ID card or faithtesting...

Like several other states (Maryland and Virginia, for instance), hard liquor
by the bottle is available at state owned facilities

Here is a link to the Utah law:
http://www.alcbev.state.ut.us/Liquor_Laws/liquor_laws_affecting_visitors.html

General Info
The sale and service of alcoholic beverages is regulated by the State of
Utah. Alcoholic beverage control is a concept that Utah shares with other
states and countries. Utah's liquor laws are based on the general philosophy
of making alcoholic beverages available in a manner that reasonably
satisfies the public demand. In this respect, however, the state does not
promote or encourage the sale or use of alcohol.
Legal Age
A person must be at least 21 years of age or older to purchase and consume
alcohol in Utah.

The following is a summary of how residents and visitors to Utah may obtain
alcoholic beverages.

Wine, Liquor, and Beer Full liquor service is available in licensed
restaurants, banquet and catering facilities, airport lounges, and private
clubs. Patrons may order liquor by the drink, wine by the glass or bottle,
and beer in bottles, cans and on draft. Packaged liquor, wine, and heavy
beer (over 3.2%) are available in State Liquor Stores and Package Agencies.

In restaurants with full service liquor licenses, liquor, wine and heavy
beer (over 3.2%) may be served from noon to midnight. Beer (3.2%) is
available from 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. Patrons must be dining in the
restaurant in order to be served an alcoholic beverage. Patrons may be
served at their table or in a waiting area. There are approximately 525
licensed restaurants in Utah, and most are located in the Salt Lake, Park
City, Ogden, and Provo areas.

In restaurants with limited service liquor licenses, wine, and heavy beer
(over 3.2%) may be served from noon to midnight. Beer (3.2%) is available
from 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. Limited restaurant licenses may not sell
distilled spirits.

An on-premise banquet license allows the storage, sale, service, and
consumption of liquor, wine, heavy beer, and beer for contracted banquet
activities on the premises of a hotel, resort facility, sports center, or
convention center. It also allows for room service in hotels and resorts.
Alcoholic beverages may be sold on any day from 10 a.m. until 1 a.m.

In private clubs, liquor, wine, heavy beer, and beer may be served from
10:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. Clubs sell alcoholic beverages with or without food,
and patrons may be served at a bar or table. Many clubs provide live
entertainment.

Although clubs are primarily for members and their guests, most clubs offer
temporary "visitor card" memberships for a nominal fee (usually $4 for three
weeks). The visitor card allows the visitor and up to seven of his/her
guests to use the club. There are approximately 340 private clubs that offer
full alcoholic beverage service. Most are located in the Salt Lake, Park
City, Ogden, and Provo areas.

In airport lounges, liquor, wine, heavy beer, and beer may be served from
8:00 a.m. until 12 midnight. Alcoholic beverages may be sold with or without
food, and patrons may be served at a bar or table. Airport lounges are
located at the Salt Lake International Airport.

Packaged liquor, wine, and heavy beer 'to go'is sold at 37 full service
state liquor stores. There are also 90 package agencies that offer a more
modest selection of these products. Package agencies are often located in
smaller cities and towns, and in hotels and resorts for customer
convenience.

Utah offers a world class wine selection at three specialty wine stores
located at: 255 South 300 East and 1863 East 7000 South in Salt Lake City;
and 1901 Sidewinder Drive in Park City. Several other state stores also
offer expanded wine selections.

Beer
Beer establishments sell beer to customers in a variety of venues. These
include taverns, lounges, cabarets, nightclubs, cafes, bowling alleys, golf
courses, etc. Approximately 500 businesses sell beer for consumption on the
premises. Almost half are located in the Salt Lake and Park City area. The
hours for beer sales in these establishments are 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m.
Beer may be purchased without ordering food, and is sold on draft and in
bottles and cans. Beer sales to go are also allowed.

Packaged beer is also available at supermarkets, grocery and convenience
stores. The maximum alcohol content is 4.0% by volume (3.2% by weight) for
beer sold in taverns, beer establishments, and stores.

"Taverns" are beer bars, parlors, lounges, cabarets, and nightclubs where
the revenue from the sale of beer exceeds the revenue of the sale of food.
Minors are not allowed on the premises of a tavern.

Single Event Permits
Single event permits are available from the Utah Alcoholic Beverage Control
Commission for groups that want to sell liquor, wine, beer, and heavy beer
at temporary (five-day) events. These are available to a bona fide
partnership, corporation, limited liability company, political or religious
organization, or incorporated association (including a recognized
subordinate lodge, chapter or other local unit) that is conducting a civic
or community enterprise or convention. The permit allows for the sale of
alcoholic beverages to the general public, or to the organization's own
invited guests for the duration of the event.

The permit allows for cash bars and the sale of alcohol for fund
raising purposes. Permits are issued by the commission once a month.
Application must be made by the 10th of each month and the fee is $100.

Temporary Beer Permits
Temporary event permits for the sale of beer (3.2%) are issued by the
Alcoholic Beverage Control Commission for on-premise consumption at a
temporary event that does not last longer than 30 days. Permits are issued
by the commission once a month. Application must be made by the 10th of each
month and the fee is $75. This permit is in addition to any that are
required by a city, town, or county in which the event is held.

Private Parties
Individuals and organizations hosting private social, business, or
recreational events or functions are not required to obtain a permit from
the state if the event is not open to the general public, and alcohol is
provided to invited guests without cost.

Metered Dispensing
Utah law requires restaurants, private clubs, and airport lounges to use a
metered dispensing system that is calibrated to dispense no more than one
ounce of primary liquor in a mixed drink. Secondary alcoholic flavorings may
then be added to a mixed drink as the recipe requires not to exceed a total
of 2.75 ounces of spirituous liquor.

Wine Service
Restaurants (full and limited service), on-premise banquet licensees,
private clubs, and airport lounges may serve wine by the glass (5 ounces) or
by the bottle.

"Brown Bagging"
"Brown Bagging" is a term-of-art that refers to the practice of bringing
alcoholic beverages into an establishment that is open to the public for
consumption on the premises. This practice is generally prohibited, however
there are three exceptions. 1) A person may bring bottled wines onto the
premises of a full service, or limited service restaurant or private club
liquor licensee (at the discretion of the licensee) and consume the wine. 2)
Alcoholic beverages may be brought onto and consumed in limousines and
charter busses under certain restrictions. 3) A person may bring onto any
premises, have, and consume any alcoholic beverage at a privately-hosted
event (private party) that is not open to the general public (see
http://www.le.state.ut.us/%7Ecode/TITLE32A/TITLE32A.htm


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