Re: A "Right" to Health Care? Moore assumptions; by Michael F. Cannon

fvicarel3@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Jun 30, 12:52 pm, Maureen <foxy1vi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 30, 1:02 pm, SMBalloon <smball...@xxxxxxx> wrote:





On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:39:08 -0500, "Jim Mitchell"
<jnjmi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
SMBalloon" <smball...@xxxxxxx> wrote
A third difficulty is the incentives created by a right to health
care. Patients would demand far more medical care because additional
consumption would cost them little. Higher tax rates would discourage
work and productivity, yielding less economic growth and wealth.
What a bull*** argument on any number of levels. I've worked jobs with
little or no co-pay on my office visits or prescriptions (unfortuantely not
the case now that I have two kids on my coverage), and that never increased
my "incentive" to run to the doctor for frivolous reasons.
The author also wrote:
"As in other nations, policymakers would discourage medical
innovation because every new discovery puts them in the
uncomfortable position of either increasing taxes or saying
"no" to patients.
The paradox of a right to health care is that it discourages
the very activities that help deliver on that right."
Now, it is a fundamental tenet of economics that if you greatly
decrease the cost of something or give things away for free, that more
people will attempt to line up to get it. You're trying to argue
otherwise by saying because you don't or wouldn't, all others wouldn't
either. But in the aggregate, it's beyond a doubt that if you give
something away for free, more will want it, and want it more often.
So the way the socialized medicine countries deal with that
fundamental tenet of economics is by not increasing supply, or of even
lessening supply. They do that by saying "no" or by not having the
most state-of-the-art procedures available to begin with, or by
placing people in increasingly long queues so as to limit the ability
of people to receive medical prcedures/operations that they supposedly
have a right to.
Some of the patients placed in the queues deal with that by dying
before they get to the front of the line, or they deal with it by
seeking treatment on the private market, perhaps in the United States.
So at the end of the day, since the number of doctors is limited and
since such doctors can only see so many people as you point out --
what you end up with is the doctors increasingly seeing those who have
the time to wait on line, regardless of their need. And that is
offset by increasing numbers of people with more need who forgo
getting medical treatment because they don't have the time to wait in
the lines. To the naked eye, it looks the same, the doctor still sees
the same number of people.
Think in terms of the following analogy. If Springsteen concert
tickets were given away for free, I assume you and others would
attempt to go to more shows. But if the supply of seats didn't
correspondingly increase to offset the increased demand for the
freebies, then many who wanted the freebies still wouldn't be able to
get them. They would go on a waiting list. And the tour would end
before many got the chance to get to the front of the line.
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So, basically, you seem to be saying that medical care in this country
wouldn't work if everyone could afford it, thru one means or another.
If it were paid for, whether by the person directly, if they bought
their own insurance, or the government, then the system would just
fall apart?
If people actually got the care they needed, then the whole house of
cards would fall down?- Hide quoted text -

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Hey, my daughter got the care she needed and all it did was literally
bankrupt our family.


Nice of the Bush and Republicans to fix that loop hole called personal bankruptcy and destroy peoples chance to start again, huh?

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