Re: Hey, Gumboman (NBC)
- From: "William Innes" <billyinnes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 03:25:15 GMT
"Evolution" <myname@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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My son went to school in the UK after 10th grade, and he took a mathsWhile I know salary can certainly be a factor, I think there's more to it
class and was completely lost. They were so far ahead of him, and there
is a reason they call it "maths" instead of "math". They take an
integrated approach to maths, including algebra, geometry, trig and
calculus all through middle and high school. We really need to do better,
and we should start by paying teachers more so we can attract good ones.
than that.
I've known a good many men and women, who spent a sizeable number of years
working in the private sector, and then
(after retiring from their corporate jobs) went back to school to get
Teaching Credentials so they could teach Math and/or Science.
For them it was a matter of already having a pretty secure/regular pension
coming in....but not quite ready to sit on the
porch and watch grass grow. They pretty much knew that the salary they'd get
from teaching in the K-12 public school system would be a tad bit lower
than what they made in the private sector.
And a good many of them left teaching after only being in the classroom for
a short while.
It wasn't the lack of money that drove them away...it was the school climate
(discipline problems, lack of support from school administrators/district
leaders
when it came to dealing with disruptive students, pressure from principals
receiving heat from parents to give better grades to students who were
undeserving of
better grades...and the list goes on).
Yes, to some extent, hard as work as it might be when in the middle of a
school year (even though the weeks/months of time off are glorious, a lot of
us spend a good chunk
of our waking hours...from the start of the day to the day's end...doing
something work-related), teaching can be a fulfilling for those of us who
can afford to take on a job
such as teaching in the public school system...
However, it's often the non-monetary matters (mentioned above) that drive
many a good/high qualified teacher out of the education biz.
Granted, these issues are going to vary substantially depending on what area
of the country one teaches...but until we manage to deal more
strongly/effectively
with the small percentage of students who trample on the rights of other
students to learn and teachers to teach, then good teachers are going to
seek other pastures and
many hard-working/cooperative students are going to continue to get the
short end of the stick.
From elementary to middle to high school, I wish this country would set up aboot-camp like school for the unruly students who (as of now) can pretty
much
destroy a sound academic/safe learning environment for so many others. 30+
years' worth of failure in trying to establish a more
compassionate/empathetic approach towards
dealing with such students (and their parents....often the apple doesn't
fall too far from the tree) should be enough to know that it doesn't work.
And, as a matter of fairness to those who truly want to learn and those who
truly want to teach,.it's time to play hardball with disruptive students.
Really, it kills me alive to see...and I see this on a daily basis....kids
who don't give a damn (who get this attitude from parents who don't give a
damn) and knowing that I, along with my colleagues & the students who work
their butts off, are going to be supporting these kids in a decade when
they're on the dole or in prison. And this isn't hyperbole or histrionics.
After having been in this biz for well over a decade, I'm starting to read
the names of those students who really could have benefited from a
rigid/regimented learning environment. Their names are starting to show up
in the obituary section (having met a violent death) or in relation to a
crime. It doesn't come as any great surprise to a lot of us when we read of
this sort of fate...but one does wonder if their fate might have taken a
turn for the better had they been given an alternative school where some
"tough love" had been administered and mandated to them
(as opposed to condescending empathy that verges towards being
enabling/crippling self-pity) .
This year I am very fortunate that I've got parents who are 100% in my court
when it comes to the high standards & expectations that I have for
behavior, social skills, academics and responsibility.
Even with only four weeks into the school year, I've already seen a major
turnaround with the behaviors, work-habits and sense of responsibility in a
great many of my students...and I tip my hat to the parents of these
children for supporting these high standards & expectations. As is, I may
not come home with a king's ransom at the end of the month...but I surely do
enjoy going to work each day. Having worked in the past at a job where I
made twice the money and had zero intrinsic joy/fulfillment, I'll take
enjoying my job over making a king's ransom any day of the week
Wow. I guess I managed to digress and veer down Tangent Avenue....
Anyway, ms. Evolution, it isn't just money that keeps a good teacher away
from the education business...I know I'd be exploring other career options
if I didn't have a
principal with a strong backbone, along with a great group of supportive
parents in my corner.
.
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