Re: NBC: What's next?


"magicrat" <magicratNewsREMOVEME@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Granted, 1 death is too many. But less than 1,000 die from Katrina and
> you would argue that all but 1% of America is living in squalor,
> unbearable conditions.

That isn't what I said. Do you have a problem with reading comprehension?
What I said was the policies of this administration are designed to benefit
those at the top of the income scale in the hopes they will have pity on the
rest of us peons and some of the money will then 'trickle down'.

So do me a favor - don't put words in my mouth.



> 15,000 die in Europe and you passively ignore that as irrelevant?

It's irrelevant in terms of Balloon's original argument.


> You can't claim that everywhere else is better than here, then ignore the
> places where it isn't.


I didn't claim any such thing so again I ask, can you read? What I said was
different societies are attempting to accomplish different objectives. You
can't take statistics that make your society look good and compare them to
another society that may be trying to accomplish something entirely
different. This is usually done by those who are intellectually dishonest
but then want to lecture then rest of us about honesty.



> 1,000 died from Katrina, and the world community is up in arms. 15,000
> died in Europe - why aren't you up in arms? Have they solved that problem
> since then?
> Your expectations of others and their arguments should apply to you too.
> I would argue that 1,000 deaths proves that the levees were not adequate.
> I would similarly argue that 15,000 deaths proves that living conditions
> were not adequate.


Then make the argument. Do you seriously think that 15000 died because a
bunch of lazy, socialistic European doctors refused to come back from
vacation?


>
> Also, I don't have much knowledge of schools or healthcare in UK, France
> or Germany. But how many people, legally and illegally, immigrate to UK,
> France and Germany each year? I don't know the answer to this, but it
> seems a reasonable question to bring to the table when discussing the
> quality of services provided to all people.



Are all humans not entitled to decent medical care? Or do you think medical
care is only for the privledged?



> While increased immigrants is not an excuse for failures in social
> services, I do imagine it would make things easier to bridge the gap if we
> locked down the borders so we could focus solely on the people who are
> here now. Maybe lots of people immigrate to France every year, and they
> still manage to provde 'adequate' services to everyone. I don't know.
> Just wondering.
>
>

Do you mean this to be taken seriously?



JH



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