Re: First Homeland Security

On Oct 15, 9:43 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 15, 3:51 pm, "Vito" <v...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
]You obviously enjoy your crack-pot, pseudo-history too much to
]change.  As you were then.

You dispute the archaelogical and DNA evidence then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)

It's a hypothesis.

Heh, heh. And an even weaker one than I suspected, it appears. Some
quotes from the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis#MtDNA_Haplogroup_X
:

"An article in the American Journal of Human Genetics by researchers
in Brazil argued against the Solutrean hypothesis. "Our results
strongly support the hypothesis that haplogroup X, together with the
other four main mtDNA haplogroups, was part of the gene pool of a
single Native American founding population; therefore they do not
support models that propose haplogroup-independent migrations, such as
the migration from Europe posed by the Solutrean hypothesis."

"Arthur J. Jelinek, an anthropologist who noted similarities between
Solutrean and Clovis styles in a 1971 study, noted that the great
geographical and temporal separation of the two cultures made a direct
connection unlikely. He also noted that crossing the Atlantic with the
technology of the time would have been difficult if not impossible, an
observation repeated by Lawrence G. Straus. Others have pointed to a
lack of evidence of Solutrean seafaring. Proponents point out that
evidence of Solutrean-era seafaring may have been obliterated or
buried underwater, as much of the coastlines of western Europe and
eastern North America that existed during the Last Glacial Maximum are
now submerged. However, Straus excavated Solutrean artifacts along
what is now a coastline in Cantabria, which was not coastal at the
time of Solutreans, finding seashells and estuarine fish at the sites,
but no evidence of exploiting deep sea resources. In addition, the
dates of the proposed transitional sites and the Solutrean period in
Europe only overlap at the extremes."

"Other challenges to the hypothesis include a lack of Solutrean-style
artwork (like that found at Altamira in Spain and Lascaux in France)
among the Clovis people. In response, proponents point out that this
style of art disappears in Europe by the time of Clovis, and that the
Solutreans introduced a tool-making innovation and not necessarily
cultural or artistic practices."

"In a 2008 study of the relevant paleoceanographic data, Kieran
Westley and Justin Dix concluded that 'it is clear from the
paleoceanographic and paleo-environmental data that the LGM North
Atlantic does not fit the descriptions provided by the proponents of
the Solutrean Atlantic Hypothesis. Although ice use and sea mammal
hunting may have been important in other contexts, in this instance,
the conditions militate against an ice-edge-following, maritime-
adapted European population reaching the Americas.'"


(Those are also all "faith-based" challenges to your theories, right
Vito?)
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