Re: Cloudburst

On Jun 17, 9:33 am, Tim <tomorrowerolsdot...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 17, 2:49 am, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...@xxxxxxx> wrote:





On Jun 16, 8:09 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 16, 1:17 pm, "tomor...@xxxxxxxxx"

<tomorrowaterolsdot...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 16, 2:43 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 16, 6:41 am, "tomor...@xxxxxxxxx"

<tomorrowaterolsdot...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 16, 9:37 am, Mark Olson <ols...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

tomor...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Turns out that the bad seal was secondary.  The clutch cleaned up with
some brake cleaner.   The real problem was that the clutch inner hub's
splines are...... gone!  As in "POOF!".   So the transmission output
shaft has nothing to drive, it just spins uselessly inside the clutch
hub.

You must have the only H-D in existence with the clutch on the
*output* of the transmission.

I knew I was going to get somethong backwards there. DOH!

Glad to hear it is working out more or less OK.

I'm kind of at the "I'll believe it when I ride it into my garage"
stage right now.

BMW folks swear by Honda Molylube for clutch splines.
I apply it every 10-15k as part of annual maintenance.

Glad you're on the road again.

Actually, I'm not.... yet.   This morning, they found that the drive
splines on the direct-driven fifth gear transmission shaft (35237-03)
were, in fact, damaged while beating the splines completely off the
clutch inner hub.   Of course, I have a Screamin' Eagle 6-speed trans
in my bike, so they had no parts in stock to replace that particular
gear.

Instead, with the franchise owner's approval, they took a brand new
$2,100 SE 6-speed (33102-03A
) out of their parts & accessories department, disassembled it,
removed fifth gear, and are installing it in my transmission now.
Looks to be an all-day repair, and I'll hopefully be out of here and
on the road when or slightly before they close at 6:30 PM edt.

These guys are treating me great, but this is going to cost an unholy
fortune.

Not to mention I have a 480 mile ride waiting for me when I finally do
roll out of here.

As Don said, "This ride is fucked."

That's strange.  As a rule, the trannys on HDs are pretty much
indestructable.

This might be a cautionary tale about how hopping up motors shortens
the life of other parts in the drive train?

Best to leave things near-stock if what you want is long life and
reliability.

As I understood it, this was a six speed rather than a stock
tranny too. Not sure what the differences are, but squeezing
an extra gear in without any compromise in robustness is
a pretty good trick.

For a really bizarre transmission mod, one gear in my gearbox
is a custom gear from Germany with one less tooth than stock.
It drives an absolutely stock gear on the other shaft and makes
up for the missing tooth by using screwy gear tooth angles.

People who run the gear report no special reliability problems but
it gets some old school mechanics foaming at the mouth mad
that such a gear should ever be allowed to exist, let alone installed
in a gearbox.

The SE 6-speed is a stock Harley tranmission that has been built and
used as the oem transmission in the CVO Screamin' Eagle bikes since
2003.  It was superceded by a new oem 6-speed used in all the big
twins sometime around 2007 or 2008.   The biggest difference between
them as I understand it is that 6th gear is the direct drive gear in
the new tranny and 5th gear is in mine.

Understand that the transmission is not the problem here.   What is
the problem is that the nut holding the clutch assembly on the
transmission input shaft (the fifth gear shaft, in this case)
slackened off, allowing the clutch inner hub to slide in and out

I had an identical problem on one of my Ducs. Seems the guy
responsible for applying the Loctite at the factory that day showed up
high on moldy pasta. Mine was not an isolated incident. The mechanic
was sure to use the magic adhesive after he replaced the clutch
assembly courtesy of the good folks at Ducati.

No matter how well it's engineered, a simple oversight can end
disastrously for both product and company reputation...
.

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