Re: Bored

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:17:11 -0600, Bob Mann <Bobo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:55:39 GMT, Calgary
<actual.rider_remove_the_obvious_@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:27:10 -0600, Bob Mann <Bobo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:58:20 GMT, Calgary
<actual.rider_remove_the_obvious_@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:20:46 -0600, Bob Mann <Bobo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I think it will become necessary to reopen the investigation at some
point because this is going to leave a foul taste if they don't.

That is no reason to open an investigation. If there is no evidence we
might as well just cut another two million dollar cheque to Mulroney
right now.

Oh sure, we'll just assume that this guy is lying because he's in
trouble and because, well, Ol' Brian is a Conservative?
Nobody owes anyone because they are investigating.
The guy's credibility is very much suspect and anything he says should
be taken in that context. He definitely has an agenda and an axe to
grind.

And for the record Ol' Brian happens to be an ex Prime Minister of
this Country. I think he deserves the respect of his position.

The position is more important than the occupant.
BM deserves respect only if he honoured the position.

You should read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_affair

Wikipedia is little more than another internet forum. It's not an
encyclopedia.

Harper has opened the door for an independent review of the whole
affair, but not for a witch hunt targeting political blood.

Did someone call for a witch hunt?

Investigations into unsupported allegations are little more than a
witch hunt.

I think a review is not quite strong enough. We know that BM received
$300,000 because (belatedly) he declared the income.
What isn't clear is why he got that money.

He has stated why he got the money.


There are serious allegations that the PM's office was corrupted and I
think we as Canadians have a right to know whether or not that
actually happened.

Allegations without supporting evidence. Allegations that have already
cost taxpayers two million dollars in a libel action. Canadians have a
right not to have our pockets picked in another witch hunt.

We also have the right to know that our Prime Ministers are not on the
take.

I agree, but we need to ensure there is evidence supporting an
investigation before we go off and irresponsibility hold one.

By appointing an independent third party to perform a review, he Prime
Minister is doing what should be done.

If there is any supporting evidence for the allegations I will support
an investigation, but not until then.

So unless evidence just pops up there should be no investigation.
Unfortunately, evidence usually only pops up if you investigate.

An investigation has already been done. The media has been digging
into the affair for years. Books have been written about it. All
without turning up clear and concise evidence supporting wrong doing
by Mulroney.

I am satisfied. The next review will either confirm what has been
found or turn up something new to follow up on. It's all that is
needed at this time.

Now if you know of anything to support the allegations I would sure
like to hear it.

How could I? There has been no investigation.

But in fact there has been an investigation.

There is a witness however.
You say he is


It will certainly give all the opposition parties lots of fuel in the
next election if they can make it look like the Conservatives are
covering their asses.
It would not be too difficult to point out the Liberals had sixteen
years to do something about it and didn't. It took a Conservative
government to engage an independent third party review the affair.

The best way to avoid that is to appoint an independent special
prosecutor to carry out a full and complete investigation which was
never really done previously.

In fact a complete investigation was done.

As I recall, they never managed to actually get anyone to testify.

Maybe we should adopt the US Homeland Security guidelines and ship all
those involved to a foreign country and force them to comply.

We have laws and we have rights. If they could not get anyone to
testify it was because they had the right not too.

Expecting the RCMP to be independent after some of the things they
have been found out in is a bit much.
Once again any suggestion the previous RCMP investigation was tainted
by politics would point directly to the government in power, the
Liberal government.

It would have taken a massive conspiracy involving the Liberals, The
Conservatives and the RCMP to bury any credible evidence brought to
light in the initial investigation. Based on nothing but politically
motivated speculation I just find it hard to believe.

They've done it before though haven't they?

What, the Libs, Conservatives and RCMP banded together in a common
conspiracy?

Geez Bob, that is over the top even for you.

The RCMP.

Pension scandal
Maher Arar
Shawinigate

The upper brass of the RCMP has been less than stellar in recent
years.
Not saying that the RCMP didn't try to nauil Mulroney but the
investigation was short ciruited by the lawsuit and the government
blinked and called off the dogs.

So you want to send in the dogs? Sounds like a witch hunt to me.

And wasn't that a Liberal government that settled the lawsuit? Without
going into another conspiracy theory, tell me why the Libs would shut
down an opportunity to bury their only real political rival and pay
the subject off with two million bucks at the same time.


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