Re: Stopping distances


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Joe wrote:
Would you be kind enough to explain how those will help?
More
traction is wasted, you can flip a sportbike over the front
wheel
with street tires.

I didn't know we were only talking about sport bikes...
You
said,
"Bottom line: 80 to 0 in 100 feet is pure fantasy." That
doesn't
rule out my Valkyrie with racing tires custom made for a big
bike.
:) If you can flip my Valk over the front wheel without
hitting
something, you're better than me because I've tried the
limits
of
the
front tire and it eventually simply skids.

But that's not with racing tires. You really think that
racing
tires
will give you over 2G of deceleration? Has anybody ever
achieved
that level on a motorcycle?

I was simply pointing out that your "cover all" statement
didn't
really cover all. What if the bike was a chopper with
racing
slicks
front and back on a custom racing-slick rubber track?
<grin>

What if it had a 100,000 pound thrust rocket engine?

I'm sure that someone could somehow under ideal conditions
cause
a
purpose-built motorcycle stop in 100 feet from 80 MPH. But
that's
not what was under discussion.

What kind of motorcycle was the man riding .. you know, the
one
that
made the picture perfect stop, or didn't ?

What difference does it make? Or are you saying that it's such
a
piece of crap that stopping in 600 feet with smoking tires is
not
to
be expected of it?

I'm saying you are a usenet motorcyclist and don't know your ass
from
ground coffee, on the road.. I doubt that you've ridden enough
to
have
ever been in situation to require an panic stop, and if you ever
did,
you'd freeze up and become a trunk ornament on the vehicle ahead
of
you..

All your hindsight.. woulda, shoulda, coulda.. makes you a
statistic
on the road, sooner or later..

Understand.. I don't care how you ride your motorcycle, or if
you
ride a motorcycle.. I've seen a lot of things in my long
history..
some you may or may not believe.. that's your choice.. My
impression
is that you are
a statistic waiting to happen.. Good luck..

What I believe is irrelevant. According to the information that
you
posted, the perfect stop you described took place over a distance
of
600 feet, which oasysco should be able to do with just the rear
brake
on his new Galantra.

LOL.. Bubba.. if you or anyone else need 600 ft. to stop a
motorcycle.. at any speed, you better stay off the road..
especially
a metroplex freeway.. You haven't been out very much, have you ?
ROTFL..

Uh, you were the one telling us about the guy stopping in 600 feet
like it was something remarkable. But you don't seem to be able to
keep your own story straight.

Do you remember the '60s?

No.. No.. Sparky.. That 600 ft. bull*** belongs to you.. You own
it..

Hey, at least my battery's not dead yet. The 600 feet comes from your
story. If you don't like it then tell us what you left out of the
story.

As far as the '60's are concerned.. WTF are you asking ?

Whether you remember them. Either you do or you don't. It's a simple
question.

P.S.. Out of curiosity.. I've gone back and reread a lot of the Minimum
Braking Distance thread.. Before my response on that thread.. there
were quite a few responses to the OP.. No mention of "emergency"
and it was involving some guy practicing stops in a parking lot..

My response on the thread, which you've taken such pains to find
objectionable doesn't include distances, much less 600 ft.. That
thread continued through countless responses back and forth and
never included distances, as far as I could tell.. The first indication
that 600 ft. was involved was much later and you were the one who
introduced it.. After you'd done some kind of wizardly computing..
Yessir.. you totally own that 600 ft. comment .. The thread is still
intact and you might want to reread it.. If you can find any comment
by me, that included 600 ft.. feel free to bring it to my attention..

I do recall the 100 ft. comment.. not sure how or when it came into
the discussion, but that comment alone was nothing more than
guesstimation on my part.. Probably during the heat of exchanges
between me and Tim Morrow and Don Binns.. In any event or incid-
ent.. when it takes any rider 600 ft. to shut his motorcycle down, he's
in trouble in any situation involving traffic.. That includes you, Sparky..

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