Re: Least expensive motorcycle GPS?

Keith Schiffner wrote:
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
SNIP

Three rules of holistic travel plans:



Sometimes the route you plan is most definitely NOT the route
you should be taking.





It becomes obvious in ways that are serendipitous, subtle and
unobtrusive that ones planed route is both uninteresting and dull.





Frankly sometimes you should follow your sense of curiosity
and not any damn fool plan.

And having followed your sense of curiosity, now you're on reserve
and haven't seen a gas station in ages, so I don't know what _you_
do but I ask the GPS to find me a gas station.

What you don't have a fuel gage?

What's a fuel gage?

Obviously you ride and inferior motorcycle. I ride a Honda, more
specificly a 30 year old honda. Came stock with fuel gage,
temperature gage and amp meter(tho I admit I've never thought much of
it) I don't see the problem... Or are you being obstinante and
argumentative for the sake of being such?

You're the one who tried to change the subject way from GPS and onto
whether my motorcycle had a fuel gage.

And my 30 year old Honda didn't have _any_ of that crap, just speedo and
tach.

Lemme guess, your first motorcycle?

But it doesn't matter. Your'e on 1/4 tank and you haven't seen a gas
station in ages. Same problem.

What problem?

You seem to have an even shorter attention span than mine. Since I've
been diagnosed with ADHD, that means that yours is _really_ bad.

Now quit trying to change the subject.

I didn't YOU DID.

Nope.

Now settle down and accept that I have answers and
they work for me.

That's fine, but why do you insist on repeating them over and over and
over again ad nauseum every time anybody asks a question about GPS?

But maybe not for you as you don't have a fuel gage
due to owning an inferior motorcycle from a company that doesn't care
if you know how much range you have.

What company is that?

I top off somewhere between 1/4 tank
and hitting the orange. Not that it matters as I know how far I can
get away with. 150-170 miles depending on whether or not I ride like
sedate prole or I'm listening to some modern surf. It's just
sensible to no how far you can go on a tank of fuel. Are you
telling me you don't know how far you can go without a GPS?

Please quote the statement that leads you to believe this.

Your very words.

Then quote them.

If I can read between lines what is your problem?
I'm not trying insult I just don't get how I can read the under text
and you can't or is it perhaps you refuse to.

Because your "reading the under text" is so far off base.

You can't find fuel
stops without a GPS?

Not if there are none in visible range, none indicated on the map,
and no signs pointing to them. Perhaps you are blessed with a form
of extrasensory perception that allows you to locate gas stations by
telepathy, but the rest of us are forced to rely on other means.

WOW!!! You mean you can't find gas stations?

Not when I'm on roads that don't have any.

That's incredable! I've
been coast to coast with little trouble finding fuel.

Maybe you should try getting off the Interstate once in a while.

I've yet to run
out of fuel ever for over 2 and a half decades.

That's nice.

How is it that a
complete moron like me can always find fuel and you can't?

Perhaps because I ride on roads that you're afraid of?

You can't
find gas without a device that has only really been practical since
around the late 80's early 90's? How'd you survive until then?

By not riding holistically and instead doing more trip planning.

It's
inconcievable! You have to be stretching the truth! That means it
wasn't even possible for me to go from Enid, Ok to OKC, Ok on nothing
but dirt roads and back roads on a T-500 (small tank pissall milage)
and back stopping for gas along the way!

Big deal, a hundred miles.

But...I did do it.

I'm happy for you.

It's
called KNOWING HOW TO FIND something.

No, it's called planning your route and sticking to your plan, which is
antithetical to your own "holistic riding" concept that you put forth
earlier.

8^) Why dumb down and use a
machine to do the navigating,

You seem to have it in your head that if one uses a GPS then the GPS
must do the route planning. It never occurs to you that one can plan
the route and then load it into the GPS. And it also never seems to
occur to you that with the GPS gives you options that you don't have on
your oh, so painstakingly detailed preplanned route.

oh sure it's conveniant at see

at see? What does the Papacy have to do with this?

or if
you some complete idiot in a cage who can not even read a map or
write down direction.

One can easily keep a map open on the seat of a car.

Granted KNOW HOW TO GIVE directions helps
greatly and I've found over 42 years that most people couldn't give
you direction to save there lives. <shrug> There problem not mine. I
listen to the drivel, write it down all dilligent like then go check
a map.

What, you need to ask directions, oh supernavigator?

When you've learned to do it without a machine. Then the machine
becomes redundant and a waste of space better taken up by something
useful like extra water or food.

Which you wouldn't need if you didn't get lost all the time.

What happened to spotting useful places during
your normal scan of the road, spotting the fuel stops at least a 1/2
mile away?

Uh, what part of "haven't seen a gas station in ages" are you having
trouble with?

I understand you are the one with a comprehension problem. You don't
know how to LOOK for something? You don't know how to find a gas
station? You don't carry a spare gallon when you are going places
where you might not find an open gas station? I you don't seem to be
thatdumb.

One can look all day and not find if one is looking in the wrong places.

Now let's see, you've wandered all over every desert in the universe
for the past 10 years but then it is inconcievable to you that
someone could ride 150 miles without seeing a gas station, and it's
inconcievable to you that someone might ride a motorcycle without a
gas gage.

I've only heard of one maybe two roads like that.

Which says that you really haven't been in all those deserts that you
claim to have travelled.

and the distance
between the middle station and either end is greater than the range
of all but a few bikes and the people who modified their bike to
carry at least 10+ gallons of fuel so yes...I can say your full of
***. On the matter of not seeing a gas station.

You're assuming that one rides on a highway from point a to point b.

You _have_ to be a poseur, and a young one.

No poseur. Bike is stock no extra chrome, no fancy electronic
gimmicks, hell not even a port for an electric vest and such.

What kind of motorcycle you ride has zip all to do with your
inconsistent claims concerning your experiences.

No
fancy paint job, no vanity tag(though I might get ATGATT) Always wear
a helmet when riding and wonder why people are stupid enough to not.

None of this means that you have done all the desert travel you claim to
have done.

Young? Define please, I remember Armstrong stepping on the moon live.

And yet you've never seen a motorcycle without a gas gage.

I remember when cordaroy jeans were cool...okay mostly cool. I
remember when comics went to a $ 0.25. Old is not my bag...old is
title not what a person feels.

Maybe that's why you make assertions that only someone with no life
experience to speak of would make.

Allowing for all that you mean to say you don't carry a
spare gallon or two?

Not unless I anticipate running over my tank range.

AH! I see the problem. Look ALWAYS expect to go over-range

If you've never run out of gas then how would you have learned that
lesson?

unless you
are brain dead turd that never deviates from their route thus leading
to a boring uninteresting life. It's a far better thing to have an
interesting trip through life than meekly following the route. I
don't get people like that and will always pity them, they aren't
living meerly existing.

You're the one who'll stop and eat ramen and spam by the roadside rather
than swallowing your pride and asking a GPS to show you a deviation from
your route that will find you some decent food.

Or having followed your sense of curiosity for 6 hours since lunch
you've got a hankering for some Chinese food, I don't know what
_you_ do but I ask the GPS to find me a Chinese restaurant.

When traveling I sometimes carry an old alpine II stove that runs on
kerosene/regular. Whip out a pack of ramen, shave some Spam into it
and enjoy. Couldn't be simpler...why make life complicated?

Because I'm in the mood for kung pao chicken, not ramen and spam.

Then you've never had dinner with friends Anjan-Ri.

Huh?

8^) Hey they
were a little short as it wasn't payday and their Ramen is better
than Kungo-Pao out of freezer in the states.

I'm sorry, but you did not say anything about travelling with "friends
Anjan-Ri" whatever that is supposed to mean, you said you cooked a
packet of ramen and spam. Which is dreck. But now you're drifting far
afield again.

So solly you were
scammed.

By who?

I'll admit having a camel steak would be nice...but I
haven't found one up here and I always pick up the fresh groceries as
I go along. Cooking for ones self while traveling is far more
satisfying that letting some minimum wage white guy cook it.

The last kung pao chicken I had was cooked by some chinese lady who
spoke broken English--I have no idea what she paid herself.

But the fact that you have never seen one of the myriad Chinese
restaurants in the US owned and operated and exclusively staffed by
Chinese says again that you're some stupid young kid posing as a worldy
old guy.

Heaviest thing I have traveled with was a 10" cast iron skillet. One
of the most useful camping/traveling tools ever made. It can cook
anything from soup to cake and steak in between.

I'm happy for you.

You keep blathering about relying on people

One can't motorcycle without relying on people. People to mine the ore,
refine the ore, smelt the metal, cast and forge and machine it, drill
the oil, transport the oil, refine the oil, etc.

and GPS for EVERYTHING.

In what post have I suggested that one "rely on GPS for _everything_"?

You seem to think that the choice is to "rely on GPS for EVERYTHING" or
not use it at all.

Go ahead it's your choice...it is more satisfying to get what they
offer if you feel like it.

Huh? Get what who offers?

Sometimes I do, more often not.

You do or not _what_?

Now go learn to use a map a compass and protractor,

Mr. Supernavigator, you left out the dividers and the pencil. I can
also use a sextant by the way.

throw some jerky,
trail mix and some water in the saddle bags.

I usually carry some emergency food.

You might surprised how
much fun it is.

When I'm in the mood for jerky, trail mix, and water then that's what I
eat. But unlike you, I prefer to eat it by choice and not because it's
all I have available because I can't find any other alternative.

Just remember to learn to use the equipment first,

Learned that in high school, ah, Stephanie, where are you now?

because I've always found it hilarious to watch the GPS crowd move
out without learning to use the equipment...damn do they get lost
fast.

"Watch the GPS crowd"?

I'm sorry, but you're clearly a loon on the topic of GPS. In all your
rantings I have yet to see you say anything _useful_, just brag about
your navigational prowess like some Midshipman 3C who has just taken his
first star sight and thinks that he is the Lord of Navigators, and put
down anybody who unlike you has learned to use _all_ the tools at his
disposal because NONE of them _always_ work.

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