Re: Nuclear power vs. coal
- From: Hank <"stopbu$h"@warcrimes.gov>
- Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:58:40 -0500
kirb wrote:
> First off, enviros need to pick which power source they don't like-
> they attack all of them now....
>
> hydro- Good luck building a dam these days. The states I deal with the
> DNR is trying to remove the ones that are there. There isn't enough
> falling water in the world to power the US, not to mention the damage
> to the ecosystem it would do.
>
> Wind- We have been trying to get several wind farms built in MI- the
> NIMBY not wanting a freaking wind farm in the middle of nowhere is
> crazy. Not to mention that they are a very small percentage of power
> needed and the lack of infrastructure in the areas the farms work is a
> greater cost. You will see more of these, but not enough to put a dent
> in coal use.
>
> direct solar- please. Not enough energy density and most people don't
> want to look at solar farms. Even the shingles that are really solar
> cells provide a fraction of the energy a house uses. This isn't even
> counting how harmful the production of solar cells are to the
> environment. Ever look at what goes into one? The cheaper hot water
> types still never took off because they are fairly useless- hot areas
> don't need hot water, cold areas don't have enough sun.
>
> biomass is huge right now. For the last 10 years, just about every
> landfill in MI has a generator attached to the methane gas of the
> landfills. They have to flare it off anyway, so the fuel is fairly
> cheap. I am currently installing a 1600kW generator on a plant that
> makes veg oil. That one plant has all the gas from one landfill- just
> enough power to cover the use of that single plant. Not enough gas for
> the rest of the county, however....
>
> That same factory also has a biodiesel processing plant. Hard to make
> it worth while until they find a use for the 20% byproduct- glycerin
> (sp?). It's slowly taking off, but only when the feds prop it up.
>
> biomass in the poop process will be big in the next 5-10 years trying
> to put a cap on the large farm methane problem. We are working on
> several proposals for *** plant methane from animals using a european
> process. You will see more of this, but driven to help with mehtane
> emmisions and less to do with cheap energy. Again, not a big energy
> producer.
>
> nukes will be the future of US energy. Just how long that will take is
> a mystery. Enviros are going to have to accept that you need to pick
> the largest energy density with the least enviro impact and run with
> it.
>
> Kirb
Kirb quotes:
"Not one mention of a freaking MOTORCYCLE....."
"How about keeping this stupid bull*** contained in another group?"
"Why the hell do you guys insist on posting this crap to a newsgroup
that could care a less?
So, not only are you a pathetic whiner boy, but a hypocrite,
too!
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http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
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take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
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http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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