Re: Open Document amidst opposition


"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Ed Cregger" <ecregger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>> "R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> the fly <tsetse51@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>>>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:49:44 -0500, "Ed Cregger" <ecregger@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>No way. I've learned way too many operating systems only to see them
>>>>>vanish in time.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is time the home computer is relegated to the status of a microwave
>>>>>oven or vacuum cleaner. Enough of this constant learning and
>>>>>relearning of systems and procedures, only to have them become
>>>>>obsolete and replaced with more idiotically over complicated systems.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm almost 60 (I think they call that 59). I want a PC that takes care
>>>>>of itself and doesn't bother me with endless make-work. PC's stopped
>>>>>being a hobby for me about ten years ago. Today it is an appliance. It
>>>>>should behave like my other appliances.
>>>>>
>>>>>My microwave oven has a microprocessor and a rudimentary operating
>>>>>system, as do my vehicles. Not once have they ever gotten a virus,
>>>>>trojan horse or a worm. Not once have I been asked if I was absolutely
>>>>>sure that I wanted the brakes to work when I pressed the pedal. Not
>>>>>once have I been told by my vehicle that it would no longer work on
>>>>>the Interstate highways and needed to be replaced, unlike several
>>>>>computers I have owned that will no longer work satisfactorily on the
>>>>>internet.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm tired of all the cutesy, semi sci-fi aspects of present day
>>>>>computer marketing. I simply want them to work as they are supposed
>>>>>to, without all of the maintenance and obsolescense that is built into
>>>>>them.
>>>>>
>>>>>There is no reason on Earth for my computer to be at the mercy of some
>>>>>hacker on the web. How does that serve me - the one that paid for the
>>>>>thing? It does not. It serves others that make money by collecting and
>>>>>reselling information to their other business buddies.
>>>>>
>>>>>When you think about it this way, Microsoft should be giving away
>>>>>their operating systems, not charging for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why is it that I'm old, but I can see how computers really should be,
>>>>>when the younger folks generally object to moving away from the
>>>>>present paradigm? Things are bass-ackwards.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed Cregger
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nail hit squarely on the head! I wish it were a stake through
>>>> Bill gates' heart.
>>>> I've been cussing for years about having to work for the
>>>> computer, instead of it working for me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If Bill Gates does indeed fund a successful vaccine for malaria he will
>>> have earned a spot in heaven(if you believe in such a thing). Saving
>>> one million lives per year is no small accomplishment.
>>>
>>> As far as computers go there is a problem with windows. It was never
>>> designed to be an appliance OS.
>>>
>>> A computer is not a toaster. It is more like a motorcycle. It needs
>>> TLC, some bling added periodically, and sometimes years of training to
>>> truly master. One does not become proficient in a day or a week or a
>>> month. Some people will never know how to change a MC tire. For them
>>> there are tow trucks. Same with computers. Want simple and no tires
>>> to change in the computer world? WebTV. Want a bit more power? AOL.
>>>
>>> pierce
>>
>>
>> You are so immersed in the present paradigm that you are unable to see
>> the forest for the trees.
>>
>> All of that service that you see as necessary is planned by the
>> designers of both motorcycles and computers. It does not have to be this
>> way.
>>
>> There are a few good things about WebTV. Aol? Nah! <G>
>>
>> Ed Cregger
>>
>>
>>
>
> There are certain laws of nature that are there no matter how much I wish
> they were not. I believe the same applies here.
>
> Operating a computer requires a certain amount of technical expertise.

No, it doesn't if the OS is written properly and not set up to milk its
users of endless updates accompanied by piles of money. Those trees are
blocking your vision of the forest again.

> Look at the computer like the tool that it is. It requires some level of
> expertise to be able to use any tool effectively. If you do not learn to
> use it properly you will be unhappy with the product. Not willing to
> learn? Guaranteed dissatisfaction.

I was good at Basic, good at DOS, good at early Windows, but this is getting
ridiculous! When will I be relieved of helping the infant computer and be
freed to do my work?

> Ed, computers just aren't that hard to maintain and use. There are
> certain
> rules or laws that you have to follow not unlike operating a Skil saw. If
> you don't follow them you can be inured severely.

Come on, Pierce, you're talking to a federally certified electronics
technician that has been to more schools (and graduated) than I care to list
on the newsgroup. I'm not someone that is not technically oriented. I simply
know when I'm being had and I resent being eternally milked because these
morons have a good thing going and have no intention of changing it until
they absolutely have to do so. If enough of us get pissed and squawk loud
enough, things will change. It is time for change. It is time for PC's to
grow up and to take their place alongside my toaster.

Better yet, I want someone that is sitting on an OS such as I propose to get
the balls to spring forward to release it to the rest of us. Charge for it,
I don't care about paying money for tools that I use. Money is the only
thing that ever got me to go to work every day, it is the same way for other
folks, I'm sure.

> OTOH there are some people that should never attempt to own and operate a
> computer or a motorcycle or a car. I offer you the following scenario.
> Take one 18 year old male. Add one 'Busa. Result: One wrecked bike and
> wrecked human and that is a minumum.
>
> pierce

Yes, if I were an IT person, I would be nervous too. Not being employed is
bad Ju-Ju. BTDT myself several times in my lifetime.

Ed Cregger



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