Re: 1985 Virago starter problem now gear shift problem

Krusty - XV700 - 1985; first the multi lobed cam or star wheel - I was
not 100% sure when I put it back together that it was in the correct
position. Basically it could be pointed in an upward or downward
position. I went with the downward postion. This is really the only
piece I messed with. I pulled the assembly off the side cover while
removing it and basically just put it back while re-assembling side
cover. I dont know if the hairpin spring thing could be out of position
because I did take it apart. I will double check the shifter pedal. The
oil was recently changed. The neutral light always worked before the
repair. Last night once I noticed the light coming on when I leaned the
bike to the right - when I stood up straight the light would go out.
Does this make sense?

krusty kritter wrote:
> Bill wrote:
> > Repaired the famous starter problem over the weekend and when starting
> > up - I noticed the neutral light was off (even though it was in
> > neutral) and I could barely get into a gear grinding the whole time -
> > The clutch works but when I try to go down to first or up to second it
> > just grinds. Power off the bike and I can kick it into gear; start it
> > - then I might be able to bring back to neutral but thats about it.
> > Also when I have up on center stand I can get into gear but must hold
> > the shifter down to maintain in gear (wheel spinning). If I let up it
> > just goes back to neutral; grinds when I try to shift. Could I have
> > installed the internal shift linkage incorrectly? Of course the trans
> > and clutch worked perfectly before the repair! I have the manual and
> > was very careful while doing this. Any suggestions would be greatly
> > appreciated - thanks in advance, Bill
>
> It would be nice if you'd mention the engine size as well as the year
> of your Virago.
>
> I looked at the SHIFT CAM FORK as well as the SHIFTER SHAFT fiches for
> a 1984 XV1000 Virago and I see that it has a mickey mouse *** metal
> linkage with a spring loaded stopper arm that has a roller that
> apparently drops into the valleys of a multi-lobed cam on the end of
> the cylindrical shifter drum.
>
> Yamaha calls the multi-lobed cam a "segment". Can you see that
> multi-lobed cam near the shifter mechanism on the engine? Some people
> call it a "star wheel", but it's part of the gear position detent
> mechanism. The stopper arm and the star wheel are what hold the
> transmission in whatever gear (or neutral) you shift into.
>
> Something might be hanging up the stopper arm, or you might have
> position the hairpin spring incorrectly.
>
> Or, it's possible you reinstalled the shifter pedal improperly and you
> might not notice that the pedal or part of the linkage is hitting part
> of the frame or the engine before you get the pedal moved far enough to
> go into first gear. Second gear wouldn't require moving the pedal so
> far.
>
> Also, the oil in the engine might be old and goopy and the transmission
> gears might not be sliding sideways freely. Of course, you should have
> the rear wheel moving or be free to move in order to shift gears.
> Sometimes when you're stopped the gears just aren't in position for the
> dogs to slide right into the slots on the adjacent gears and you hear
> the dogs on the sides of the gears grinding, it's not the actual gear
> teeth making that awful sound...
>
> Does the neutral light ever work at all? I saw a grounding contact on
> the
> star wheel for the neutral light. Yamaha calls it a "point".
>
> In the worst possible scenario, one of the shifter forks has gotten
> bent from forced shifting, or the shifter fork nub that is supposed to
> follow the groove in the rotating shifter drum has jumped out of the
> groove.
>
> That problem typically requires removing the engine from the frame and
> splitting the cases to fix.

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