Re: kind of on-topic... The postulate edition

Sarge wrote:
Sounds like capitalism 2me. The best social system devised by humanity to date.
So why try to improve on it? You are so clearly right. My bad.
"You go carryin' pictures of Chairman Mao,
Ain't gonna make it with anyone any howowowowow..."

There you go quoting Lennon. Who's the bleeding heart love is the answer socialist commie now?

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You're obsessed with attributing the profit motive to all human
suffering aren't you?

Not obsessed, and definately not for all suffering. Profit is the natural result of work. A wise man once said that "the love of money is the root of all evil" or something like that. It has been translated a few times since its origin, but you get the gist.

Money is wonderful as a tool, it allows you and me to exchange our talents and efforts for those of others who might not need the particular skills or products we have. As any tool it can be used for good or bad. When the money itself becomes more important than people, trouble is at the door. Oh, and the money doesn't belong to me, it belongs to us.

For an alleged employer and, presumably, a capitalist, you are still
infused with some silly socialistic longings.

I sign the front of the checks, collect the taxes and get paid last. That makes me an actual employer, not an alleged employer. And if believing that we can improve on the way we distribute the tax dollars I deposit every 15th is silly, call me silly. Oh you did. Never mind.

You can't guarantee "better," only different. Gawd save us from the
influences of the refried '60s Hippie culture before they all die off
and leave well enuf alone. Prezident Billary should be about enuf to
make this culture collectively puke in our boots, and if she doesn't
totally destroy what's been built in 230-plus years of nation-
building, we'll survive her and reinstitute a government of the
people, not of the Klintoons.

Easy on the koolaid there. Too much of a good thing isn't healthy.

I get it. When YOU decide things are not right then change will occur, but not until then?
When the vast majority of us who just aren't dissatisfied with the way
things are yet, do. Perhaps.

It will be too late by then.

The basic problem is easy to explain:
All gummint is incompetent, run by self-serving troglybytes insuring
mainly their own reelection to their cushy jobs.

And all the vast majority who just aren't dissatisfied yet are too. neener neener

The "media" is run by children who advocate change so that they'll
have something to write about.

to the vast majority vast majority who just aren't dissatisfied yet.

And, don't forget, "If it bleeds, it
leads." And the legacy of Richard Nixon: "Gotcha" political reporting,
which makes democracy so transparent that it can no longer conduct a
war without daily casualty numbers and equal time every day for the
enemy's persepective on things.

Yeah, that's the problem. Open access to information. That also brought down the soviet empire, along with overspending on military adventures.

Are you telling the world what you know or repeating what you've been told?
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I 've been alive long enuf to see the errors accumulated by the
efforts of "change-for-change's-sake" fuckups charging half-assed into
the future with no idea what they'll end up with, if that's what you
mean.

I thought you said we were the pinnacle of creation.

I used to consider myself "progressive;" I couldn't wait for the
next change to come, just for the novelty of it. But I grew out of
that. 'Grew up as the decades piled up. Now, I have a shorter future
than I have a past, and have built up a pretty comfortable existence,
surrounded by people and things that make it so. Working for the Mouse
in my retirementsis my way of giving some joy to the little ones
who'll inherit this planet some day, and they have a pretty good
healthcare system.

Some do. Glad you are enjoying your work.

The Roman Empire lasted
longer than this country has, the ancients built the wonders of the world
with slave labor and brutality

Parts of this country were too. We changed that, mostly.

! hang on, Steven Colbert is interviewing bill o'really... that might be as much fun as this... NBC is the axis of evil... secular progressives under the covers, OMG!... OMG!!! Bill O'Really said (quoting here) "I am just an act!"


Shirley!! A round for the house!!



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Yer not lost if you get back before the search party finds you...
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