Re: F-2A Buffalo Model Aircraft


Duh, slip of the pecking fingers & TBM/TBF on my mind I guess,
yes, of course, I meant to type GOODYEAR!!!! ;)

On Mar 2, 6:30 pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@xxxxxxxxx (Gray Ghost)
wrote:
frank <famvb...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote innews:2cc3e2c2-2bf8-43ff-b1da-599081552d34@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:







      I think I vaguely recall a discussion about Corsairs at one
point. Vought's was F4U, GM's was FG or F2G & Brerwster's was F3A,
IIRC. Regarding USAF & current military designations, that's why it's
important to quote the a/c complete designation rather than just
"P-51" (gee, which version?) or as you mentioned "F-84", or like
Italeri did when the released their 1/72 B-52. Duh, OK, WHICH
VERSION??? It's strange how so many a/c designs were an outgrowth of
the same design, yet received a totally new designation, such as the
F-86 & YF-93(?) or even the F-80 & F-94, or the F-102 & F-106, &
others, but yet the basic F-84 went its entire career, from a just
Post - WWII straight-winged a/c to a whole new swept-wing, with 2
different forward fuselages even (for the RF version), yet it never
changed designations. Regarding the old USN system, one of the most
common screw-ups I see is "Grumman TBM". Nooooo, Grumman's is a TBF,
GM's is a TBM.

On Mar 2, 3:05 am, Pat Flannery <flan...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
frank wrote:
       I was referring to the 'old style' system. OTOH, would the USN
created a new designation for McDD after they merged? Their a/c were
no longer H or D, but H & D, so surely they would've come up with a
new identifier.

Didn't someone go into this regarding the designations of the
Goodyear-built derivations of the Vought F4U Corsair, which did indeed
have separate Navy fighter designations?
I still like the implications to the logic of the Navy designation
schemes that we all still can't agree on what a Super Hornet would be
designated as.
That says a lot right there as far as the logic of the system went.
You can say a lot against Robert McNamara, but apparently he had his
head screwed on straight in regards to this aircraft designation
situation at least.
The whole thing was apparently a Brazilian Cluster F***k.
Even on the Air Force side, when a F-84 "Thunderjet" turns into a F-84
"Thunder streak" there are problems.Those were two very different
aircraft. At least when it comes down to variants of the F/A-18, one at
least can recognize which aircraft is being referred to, and immediately
visualize it in one's head.
It was a Hornet...now it's a Super Hornet, and it's noticeably bigger.
"Yes... the one with the square air intakes and stealth stuff...that
one." Oh God... just for some logic in it all. :-)
Robert McNamara, where is your logic, gigantic ego, and horribly crooked
teeth when we need you?
All is forgiven... let's rephrase that... in the land of the blind, the
one-eyed man is king....okay, you cocked up royally on Vietnam, but you
'fessed up to it in a book, which made you a complete outcast in the
Democratic Party. But as far as I know you had nothing to do with Iraq,
and nowadays that could be considered a near-saving grace, small that it
is. ....until at least egos...vast, cool, and unsympathetic...start
'fessing up to it in _their_ books....and inevitably blaming someone
else for its failure. William F. Buckley is dead, and one wonders about
the last thoughts that went through his mind as he keeled over at his
desk, and realized what his part had been in respect to the future of
his nation, conservatism, the Republican Party, and the National Review
magazine. Unlike Benjamen Franklin at the constitutional convention,  I
suspect he saw a _setting_ sun, and with good reason. :-)

Pat

Actually, no. A FM Corsair would have been F@M. "G" stood for Goodyear.

Pass the aspirin.

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