Re: First Day of NSL, the space time continuum is still A-OK

In article <cdce2$447b15e7$471cca46$20056@xxxxxxxxxx>, "shockwaveriderz" <shockwaveriderz@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
In this new policy decision, Selective NAR members at selective times and
places will be allowed to use never-certified motors, which haven't gone
thru the USDOT explosives testing process nor adhere to the CPSC marking and
labeling requirements. And they are made by a East Euopean person on his
kitchen top, or in his basement or in his garage, who has no liability
insurance, so if the motor cato's and takes your eye out..well..you do the
math...

At least one board member has told me that at the board meeting, it was
discussed that only site owner coverage would be in effect when these motors
were used, and that individuals would ave no coverage when they flew
uncertified motors.

Next year when the USA Team FAI Spacemodeling Flyoff's are held at NARAM-49,
or NSL 2007, these events may be held in states in which we know for sure
that NFPA 1122/1125 are in effect. (unlike this years NSL2006, where they
are not in effect so no fire codes were broken). Would it be the ultimate
irony that the NAr who helps make the NFPA fire codes for us all, allows
these same fire codes to be broken. The NAR response to this is: we are
not an enforcement agency. We do not enforce nfpa fire codes (thats for the
local or state fire marshal to do), we do not enforce USDOT (thats for USDOT
enforcemnt to do) and we do not enforce CPSC(thats for CPSC enforcement to
do)...

Something that any NAR member or section thinking of hosting an NSL or NARAM
should consider. Even the manufacturer demo policy, which is NOT applicable
to these motors unless Jiri is here to personally fly them, still gives the
event RSO the right to say "NO". Any responsible NAR member should "just say
NO" to allowing "selected members" to fly any motor that is not on the
combined motor certification list. That is their job.

I'm disappointed that the folks running NSL 2006 didn't do so. I'm
disappointed that the participants at NSL 2006 didn't voice their disgust
and walk off the range.

--
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<<
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S&T is becoming this decades Steve Weaver!
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