Re: Denatured Alcohol for fuel?



On 20 Apr, 07:20, "RogerN" <re...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 19 Apr, 02:16, M-M <nospam....@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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bm...@xxxxxxx wrote:
Flame color is 100% meaningless with respect to how much power you
are
going to get out of an internal combustion engine from that fuel.

I was not talking about power. I was saying alcohols other than
methanol
leave residue.

Bullshit

Hold a glass over a methanol flame and then a denatured alcohol flame
and see which one leaves soot.

--
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com

But wouldn't a gasoline fire even be worse?  In searching around on the
internet, one reason they want to use methanol in race cars is in case there
is a fire, it doesn't block the other drivers vision.  On the other hand,
with the right fuel to air ratio gasoline makes an acceptable motor fuel.
Also on an oxygen acetylene torch, the acetylene sends a lot of soot into
the air until you turn on the oxygen.  This has me wondering if the ethanol
burns with a yellow flame due to incorrect air/fuel ratio?  No doubt that
methanol is the alcohol of choice since ethanol is so widely available and
possibly cheaper than methanol.  But on the other hand ethanol plants were
being built when gasoline was over $4 per gallon, it should be an acceptable
motor fuel.

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Actually the lowest cost way to make ethanol is from crude oil. You
crack the crude to ethylene and hydrate the ethylene. That is how
industrial grade ethanol is made. Fermentation is mandated by law as
the way ethanol must be produced for additive to gasoline. It is
illegal to use the cheap stuff to produce as a gasoline additive. It
only survives at all in the market place due to the huge government
subsidies handed out to the fuel ethanol producers. So if you buy
ethanol for anything other then adding to gasoline or drinking is more
then likely is not made by fermentation.
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