Re: Note to Obama: Only Private Sector Creates Wealth, Jobs
- From: hal
- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:47:59 GMT
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:14:30 -0800 (PST), Shuurai
<shuurai11@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
He's mistaken.
No, this whole pile of typical right wing bullshit is mistaken because
no one produces wealth. =A0Ever. =A0
Nonsense. Wealth can absolutely be created. Wealth is created, for
example, when we use resources in new ways. When we combine them and
transform them in ways that make them more useful.
Take for example the computer you're using right now. Which would you
rather have, that computer; or a bucket of oil, a pile of sand, and
some rocks? Because according to you, the two are pretty much
equivalent. And yet, the vast majority of people out there would
shell out hundreds or even thousands of dollars for a computer; not so
for a bucket of oil, some sand and some rocks.
One word, labor. Labor allows some to exchange work for a portion of
the wealth taken from natural resources. Everything is made of
something. That something comes from somewhere. The process of labor
allows us to transform resources to a more useable form, and use our
labor in exchange for a share of the resource. No matter how you
value labor, the resource came from somewhere and was taken from
someone. Directly or indirectly.
It is only taken wrong someone else and accumlated into the hands of an e=lite few. =A0
I will assume that you mean "from" someone else. How did someone else
get it?
They took it from someone else.
The entire history of capitalism in the industrial age is all about takin=g resources from
someone else at the point of a sword. =A0
Actually, it is about buying and selling resources from someone else;
and in the vast majority of cases the exchange us mutual.
Track all the transactions back you want, at some point someone was
murdered and it taken away.
Socialism is a system which attempts a more equitable distribution of res=ources
At the point of a sword.
If you need to be forced to do the right thing, so be it. Your kind
thinks it's ok to steal at the point of a sword, so now The People say
We are going to force you to do the right thing at the point of a
sword. Guess, what, no matter how many people your kind murder, We
always win in the long run.
to benefit all people, and therefore society,
Or, at least, to line the pockets of those who find themselves in
control, under the premise that they, in their benevolence, will see
fit to use it in some manner that benefits other people. It sounds
great on paper; never quite works out that way in the real world.
Need some examples? Go down to Venezuela for a while, see how you
like it. See how "the people" are faring in comparison to the folks
running the show.
rather than allowing unlimted
accumlation of weatlh to the people willing to lie, cheat, steal, and
murder to get it. =A0
Mainly by setting up the laws so that those people don't NEED to lie,
cheat, steal, and murder to get it. Instead, they just let the
government take it by force and hand it to them; and occasionally even
managing convince the less intelligent (that'd be you) of the people
they're stealing it from that it's for their own good, and that they
ought to appreciate having it stolen.
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