Re: Judo Worlds rules changes

Dan Winsor wrote:
On Aug 28, 2:55 pm, Pboud <pboud_01NOSPA...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neil Gendzwill wrote:
Pboud wrote:
Neil Gendzwill wrote:
Greendistantstar wrote:
Dan Winsor wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IG4Au-3A0s&e
Interesting - I don't like the changes. Seem to be trying to undo a
lot of recent changes towards ground work and promote the flashy
throws. Also the one referee change is horrible.
Sumo with a gi.
Sorry, no youtube at work - what's the change that's causing you guys
problems?
Neil
all grappling removed.. nothing below the waist can be used for
throws.. I kinda stopped watching at that point.
Are you sure you have interpreted what they said correctly? The new
rule in effect this year is that you can't grab the material of the pant
leg and use that to throw. You can still grab or scoop the leg, and of
course sweeps, props etc are still allowed. Grabbing the pant leg is
still allowed for ground work, subject to the previous restrictions
(can't put your hand inside the leg, no pistol grip).
Neil
Here's a list of points brought up in the tape (their views, not mine)

- test, not official yet (for the 09 games)
- no touching anything below the waist to score
- first time is warning, second is a disqualification
- needs for tech/strat change
- Turning into Karosh(sp?)
- concerns about lack of foresight in the setting of rules (not
considering weight class)
- gripping game becomes important
- tall people now have large advantage
- essentially cut out the 'no handed judo' game
- first thing in a match now is grab.. extremely important.
- one referee system (no side judges) with earpiece to ref commission
- takes away different observation/views

The one point that Rhadi made that you forgot was a quick plug for his
"Grip Like a World Champion" DVDs as well as his impromptu courtesy
plug for Jimmy's Zebra mats. :) But, aside from that, you hit the
major points. I've been looking for a text of the official rules or,
even better, of the official changes, but I've not found anything
yet. I'm assuming their interpretation is there as they were in the
coaches briefing, but I'd still like to read it myself.

The gripping game has been important for a long time now. "No touching anything below the waist to score" may still be a misinterpretation. When we first got the new rule last year, it was unclear and could easily have been interpreted to mean that. But locally, the refs have only been calling it if you grab the pants material. They also have been enforcing that any leg grab must be part of a continuous attack. This is similar to the rules about gripping both hands on one side - OK to do, but you need to be trying to make a throw happen.

I don't see tall guys having a particular advantage. As always, the tall guys can work the leg techniques and the shorter guys can work the hip techniques.

Neil
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