Re: RIP Helio Gracie

On Feb 12, 8:03 am, Wayne Dobson, Nah, I won't deny it.  If you
insulted me to my face, I would walk away.
 That's consistent with my values.  I've said repeatedly that I walk
away from insult.  Attempting to injure me, however, is a completely
different proposition.

You at least get points for admitting your submissive.Good on
you.Takes all kinds,I guess.Let your freak flag fly is what I always
say.

Helio took loss as courageously as his wins

Id argue that Helio shouldnt get ripped for often pointing out kimura
was far heavier, but in stating so often that theyd agreed if he can
last even a minute that basically he was the winner.Well Ive heard
people say helio made that part up, no idea if he made it up or not,
but it doesnt matter, if kimura said it, its prefight bluster, and in
truth i think kumira though he wasnt carrying helio in the macth, he
sure didnt look in a hurry to win.Its a quibble maybe, but helio
bringing that up many times, or ate least his sons doing so seeming to
be following helios storyline, well helios repsct while still
considerable, lets just say that version doesnt speak well of him.It
does speak very well that he seemd to raise half the garcie kids, but
rorion basicalle saying gracie jj was helios invetion, and it doenst
fit with the other gracies who say helio was as crucial as any other
gracie, he was no moreso than some others.Well that speaks poorly of
all of them.
hey, you are the one ripping helio, now your his defender and now
somehow i m the bad guy? howd you do that?

When you challenged me, you were actually prepared to follow through.

I dont recall challenging you, i know there ws guys here i was gonna
fight here and there, most in jest, but sure ill take your word for
it.I really have no idea who you are, i can name maybe 5 rma guys, and
only maybe two without thinking long about it.i was really just
reposnding to the coupkle posts i read of you that day, i still cant
get straight wayne, hal, isnt ther another one who starts with an h? i
dunno.maybe im dumb, or here just to rant an absord nothing.came to
rma many years ago and dtayed to kock tapes, well thats why i first
came, it was my job.its abeenm a couple years since i did that, really
just stay for habit.i feel better after a rant and my friends dont
wanna hear it.

You recognized the possibility of defeat and put up only the amount of
money you were prepared to honour.  I have no problem with that.  Even
if I don't agree with your position, I respect courage.

it isnt courage.nor even confindce.non mma people dont get that.
its just a fight.which makes it thursday to me.i fight guys maybe 5
days a week, have for maybe 15 years.i win some, i lose some.i say
without the smallest lie, you show up, you say "we are gonna fight
recall rma?" i say "ok" we fight, i lose.i say "nice job" thats it.5
minutes latter its donme.fighting is what tmaers train for.
i dont train to fight,training IS FIGHTING.I dont need hate you, i get
beat up, so what? you may say its coyrage, but is it courage when a
roofer is putting shingles on a 5 story building? it is to me.id be
all full or vertigo up ther and probably fall and die.to him, its his
job.he deserves no props./
the fear of gighting, of losing, humiliation, gettinf hurt.Its long
since gone.10 years gone.I just got tossed around by a huge powerful
newb, GnPd on the cage and beat up.Guys busted my balls getting beat
up by a newb, its the type of joke that we make so as to kind of bond,
make conversation.Jusat busting balls.That i got beat up and
humiliated makes it thursday no more.i PARTICULARLY RIP MARTIAL ARTSTS
and stay on rma now i suppose cause its just so fun, so odd and
interesting, that there is this whole tam and RBSD world wher they
spend their lives wrapped up in fighting, yet they dont actually
fight, and they are driven by the terror, the awe, the mystical
side...of this thing they are obessed with yet know nothing about.
It was mostl;y tma guys, most tma guys either changed to more mma, or
they quit tma, or the just got queit and try to go unnonticed now.
so now its more reality based foold, they are fun, crazy fun.terrified
that some black kid will throw anthrax in there face or theyll be
forced to do a deadly eyegouge to a rapist, all while being just too
damn scared to train fighting, get over the fear and actually learn
something.unfortunatly they got smart too, they could no longer stay
in the lie, or they got bored of traininf for fights that never came,
and now realitty based *** is dieing, like martial fads do, well
other than mma, tyhis fads still growing.
look up old old rma threads, like from the 90s, the posts are either
"hey what has better kicks kempo or hapkido" when now talking about
arts is barely ever done, or the topic in 99 was theory, like :"what
to do when attacked in the dark" now people say "whos in the next
ufc?" or "how can i pass halfguard?" ok they dont do that much, but in
terms of martial arts posts, its about acrtual details of fighting.and
that bores me.i have my job for that.so now i come to rma just really
to rant on politics to people who kinda get i just wanna rant and i
really dont give two shits, and who hopefully will ognore the 3 typos
in every line.
so your lucky, you made a post i read and commented in a rant on
ripping you yeah, but *** it, at least it was interesting.those other
posts i read musta sucked.
ok, no idea why i ranted on why im here, the history of rma, analyzed
myself(i looked inward, didnt stick anything up my *** as far as u
know, i just cant spell "analized".) im just tired and need to here
myself talk as i type, til i get the energy to drive home and eat
cereal all night and curse at fate which makes me tired all the time
yet suffer from neverending insomnia.my life is one of those real bad
twilighte zones which is just one irionic idea that the story has no
idea what to do with, its just like "ok, hes tired cant slepp..so? now
what?" so they either just end with some random thing like he wakes
and its a dream and youre like...ok so it was ironic, and he awoke and
he dreamed he had insomnia? so they i guess think ironic irony is like
the super endall of good storytelling an if they think that they
should see my 8th grade creative writing stories, theyd peg me a
genius steada the retard which the teacher and any other reasonable
person could easliy see that i was.I recall stayiong up late, like
midnight too see the reruns of the zone that my older half brothers
used to tell me were just pure adult scary genius.I would watch it
thinking>? if my bros think these are genious, well than clearly thers
something im not seeing cause i see black and white *** about as
interesting as mary tyler moore would have been if she had no
boobies.This was before i was old enough to realize that my brothers
were high on qualudes and acid pretty much 24-7.which im told makes
the twilight zone alot more watchable.

You are a vermin.

There you go again, endangering our close friendship.

But I like you anyways, i really do.I am entertained
by vermin, the petty emotional sorry excuses for men like you.The
world full of them and i enjoy their company

You say the nicest things...  I think.

wow i just read my post(tip, never read your own posts) and i seem
like such a jerk its all vermin this, insect that.who am i? doctor
friggin doom? wow, one day your kinda doing a character, and next
thing is youve done it so long its who you are.you dont know how not
to be this kinda faux megolomanical, sarcastic overly intellectual
anti-intellectual(sounds a contradiction, but i proove it aint) no
wonder i havent any friends.*** that eralier ***, thats why im here
no freinds.
youve given me much to dwell on.so i conceed that your more worthy
than most vermin.The energy drinks and pain killers are wearing
off.good night.,Note to self, never read this post.
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