Re: Feeling Blue

Mark Goldberg <msgoldberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

: And I'll bet....I'll bet you have every need to impress upon me that
: there isn't any 'meaning'.

Not really, you can believe what you like. My concern is that my children
might have someone else's meaning impressed upon them at at school.
Young children have trouble thinking critically and so it strikes me as
important that we make sure that we present information very clearly.

: Only by opening the box does the observer force it into two possible
: state, and that observation is what creates the 'real' world. The
: phenomenon it said, could be observed at the microscopic level.

Unfortunately it doesn't really scale up to the cat level!

: Fair enough. I think saying 'vile commentary' and such is neither
: evidenced, accurate, scientific in the broad sense, nor meaningful...
: well it is, but that's from where I sit :^)

Perhaps the problem might be that we all judge others subjectively. When
I say that Palin was spouting "vile commentary" I have no really objective
way of judging it. For example I can't add up some numbers and see if
the result satisfies certain conditions.

This is different than saying that Palin was lying (or at least bending
the truth massively) about the Bridge to Nowhere and earmarks, both of
which are demonstrable.

But this doesn't mean that those subjective evaluations don't have merit;
they do inasmuch as we all make them, we often agree on them and they
affect the way we act in response. I saw what I saw and many others
agreed.

: But why quibble.
: After all. You've got hal the marxist ideologue giving you full support.
: You can rest easy now :^)

Except I disagree with much of what Hal says, so I can't. =)

: No.... post the entire comment and in it's context then it will be
: apparent what she meant, didn't mean and what it was worth or not....
: and some of that goes for you too.

How much exactly do you want posted, the entire speech probably not?
Here's more than I had before:

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right.
Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are
sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we
have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that
plan is God's will."

If she's not saying that the war is a task from God, what exactly is she
saying?

: She didn't impose anything while she was in government.

It's not just a question of whether she might force her views on others,
it's also a question of how capable she is in a rational sense. I'd like
my leaders to be able to follow basic logical arguments. Believing in
things which contradict such basic arguments is not just a statement about
belief but also about her ability to handle simple rational thought.

Justin

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